My 2010 GT Project!
06-08-2010, 05:34 PM
#12
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 10
Wow lots of feedback, thanks guys!
I have to admit I'm a bit confused though.. everyone is saying forced induction, but that blows my whole wad on the engine. You can't just bolt on a blower and call it a day, right? You have to add a new fuel pump and higher flow injectors. And unless I'm totally in the dark here, doesn't that add a lot of strain to the engine? Wont I want to upgrade the heads and cams too to compensate for the extra muscle on top?
The way I see it, installing a supercharger leaves me enough money left over for some floor mats and a couple of decals for the window lol. And the idea of picking up a vortech for around $4000??? I haven't seen anything less than $5000 for the basic model blower for the 2010. Older years yes, but not for the 2010. And then you tack on tax and shipping to Hawaii (easily an extra $200), plus all the extras needed (fuel pump, injectors, etc..) and their tax and shipping charges and you've got a bill around $6500+...
And yes I did say I believed in performance first before looks. But the interior mods aren't about looks for me, they're about the nerdy toys. I'm a computer geek by heart and by trade, and a mustang lover as well. This is planned to be the combination of those two things. So for about $2500ish I get close to half the HP that a $6500 blower setup will get me... I don't really see the problem there...
Now this isn't a slam on anyone, and I hope my tone doesn't come across as argumentative or anything. I really do appreciate everyone's feedback, because that's what I asked for. I'm just very much of the opinion that forced induction is seen somewhat as a cliche these days... as in it seems to be the popular opinion that the end all be all of muscle car performance is a good blower. Don't get me wrong, I'm going to put one on next year... I just want to be able to get a good mix of all the things I want this year, without throwing all my eggs in one basket from the gate.
I have to get ready for work soon, but I'll be replying to more specific details in some of your posts later this evening (well into the am hours for you guys lol). And I'm revisiting the idea of the CAI intake due to the advice of a good friend here on island. He made a point that the throttle body without a CAI doesn't make much sense, and I think he may be right..
So I'll post more later, including a revised "finalized" parts list and I'll go from there.
Thanks again for all the input, again, I really appreciate your opinions!
David
I have to admit I'm a bit confused though.. everyone is saying forced induction, but that blows my whole wad on the engine. You can't just bolt on a blower and call it a day, right? You have to add a new fuel pump and higher flow injectors. And unless I'm totally in the dark here, doesn't that add a lot of strain to the engine? Wont I want to upgrade the heads and cams too to compensate for the extra muscle on top?
The way I see it, installing a supercharger leaves me enough money left over for some floor mats and a couple of decals for the window lol. And the idea of picking up a vortech for around $4000??? I haven't seen anything less than $5000 for the basic model blower for the 2010. Older years yes, but not for the 2010. And then you tack on tax and shipping to Hawaii (easily an extra $200), plus all the extras needed (fuel pump, injectors, etc..) and their tax and shipping charges and you've got a bill around $6500+...
And yes I did say I believed in performance first before looks. But the interior mods aren't about looks for me, they're about the nerdy toys. I'm a computer geek by heart and by trade, and a mustang lover as well. This is planned to be the combination of those two things. So for about $2500ish I get close to half the HP that a $6500 blower setup will get me... I don't really see the problem there...
Now this isn't a slam on anyone, and I hope my tone doesn't come across as argumentative or anything. I really do appreciate everyone's feedback, because that's what I asked for. I'm just very much of the opinion that forced induction is seen somewhat as a cliche these days... as in it seems to be the popular opinion that the end all be all of muscle car performance is a good blower. Don't get me wrong, I'm going to put one on next year... I just want to be able to get a good mix of all the things I want this year, without throwing all my eggs in one basket from the gate.
I have to get ready for work soon, but I'll be replying to more specific details in some of your posts later this evening (well into the am hours for you guys lol). And I'm revisiting the idea of the CAI intake due to the advice of a good friend here on island. He made a point that the throttle body without a CAI doesn't make much sense, and I think he may be right..
So I'll post more later, including a revised "finalized" parts list and I'll go from there.
Thanks again for all the input, again, I really appreciate your opinions!
David
06-08-2010, 06:03 PM
#14
5th Gear Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,397
Wow lots of feedback, thanks guys!
I have to admit I'm a bit confused though.. everyone is saying forced induction, but that blows my whole wad on the engine. You can't just bolt on a blower and call it a day, right? You have to add a new fuel pump and higher flow injectors. And unless I'm totally in the dark here, doesn't that add a lot of strain to the engine? Wont I want to upgrade the heads and cams too to compensate for the extra muscle on top?
The way I see it, installing a supercharger leaves me enough money left over for some floor mats and a couple of decals for the window lol. And the idea of picking up a vortech for around $4000??? I haven't seen anything less than $5000 for the basic model blower for the 2010. Older years yes, but not for the 2010. And then you tack on tax and shipping to Hawaii (easily an extra $200), plus all the extras needed (fuel pump, injectors, etc..) and their tax and shipping charges and you've got a bill around $6500+...
And yes I did say I believed in performance first before looks. But the interior mods aren't about looks for me, they're about the nerdy toys. I'm a computer geek by heart and by trade, and a mustang lover as well. This is planned to be the combination of those two things. So for about $2500ish I get close to half the HP that a $6500 blower setup will get me... I don't really see the problem there...
Now this isn't a slam on anyone, and I hope my tone doesn't come across as argumentative or anything. I really do appreciate everyone's feedback, because that's what I asked for. I'm just very much of the opinion that forced induction is seen somewhat as a cliche these days... as in it seems to be the popular opinion that the end all be all of muscle car performance is a good blower. Don't get me wrong, I'm going to put one on next year... I just want to be able to get a good mix of all the things I want this year, without throwing all my eggs in one basket from the gate.
I have to get ready for work soon, but I'll be replying to more specific details in some of your posts later this evening (well into the am hours for you guys lol). And I'm revisiting the idea of the CAI intake due to the advice of a good friend here on island. He made a point that the throttle body without a CAI doesn't make much sense, and I think he may be right..
So I'll post more later, including a revised "finalized" parts list and I'll go from there.
Thanks again for all the input, again, I really appreciate your opinions!
David
I have to admit I'm a bit confused though.. everyone is saying forced induction, but that blows my whole wad on the engine. You can't just bolt on a blower and call it a day, right? You have to add a new fuel pump and higher flow injectors. And unless I'm totally in the dark here, doesn't that add a lot of strain to the engine? Wont I want to upgrade the heads and cams too to compensate for the extra muscle on top?
The way I see it, installing a supercharger leaves me enough money left over for some floor mats and a couple of decals for the window lol. And the idea of picking up a vortech for around $4000??? I haven't seen anything less than $5000 for the basic model blower for the 2010. Older years yes, but not for the 2010. And then you tack on tax and shipping to Hawaii (easily an extra $200), plus all the extras needed (fuel pump, injectors, etc..) and their tax and shipping charges and you've got a bill around $6500+...
And yes I did say I believed in performance first before looks. But the interior mods aren't about looks for me, they're about the nerdy toys. I'm a computer geek by heart and by trade, and a mustang lover as well. This is planned to be the combination of those two things. So for about $2500ish I get close to half the HP that a $6500 blower setup will get me... I don't really see the problem there...
Now this isn't a slam on anyone, and I hope my tone doesn't come across as argumentative or anything. I really do appreciate everyone's feedback, because that's what I asked for. I'm just very much of the opinion that forced induction is seen somewhat as a cliche these days... as in it seems to be the popular opinion that the end all be all of muscle car performance is a good blower. Don't get me wrong, I'm going to put one on next year... I just want to be able to get a good mix of all the things I want this year, without throwing all my eggs in one basket from the gate.
I have to get ready for work soon, but I'll be replying to more specific details in some of your posts later this evening (well into the am hours for you guys lol). And I'm revisiting the idea of the CAI intake due to the advice of a good friend here on island. He made a point that the throttle body without a CAI doesn't make much sense, and I think he may be right..
So I'll post more later, including a revised "finalized" parts list and I'll go from there.
Thanks again for all the input, again, I really appreciate your opinions!
David
that is the kit i ordered, it is 100% complete and has everything you need in it and its intercooled whereas the vortec kit is not at that price. All you need is an ase certified mechanic to do the install to keep your full facotry warranty. My install was $600. that leaves you about $3k. Again that kit is complete and has everythign you need fro safe and fully warrantied power.
06-08-2010, 08:17 PM
#16
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: MICHIGAN
Posts: 104
with another $3K left you get plenty of NERDY stuff to begin.....don't finish the project too soon or you will need a new one too soon!!
06-08-2010, 10:01 PM
#17
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 10
Ok I'd like to take this thread in a new direction....
Hypothetically speaking for purposes of this thread... let's just say that forced induction is a concept that doesn't exist....
So for the remainder of this thread.. no superchargers or whipplechargers...
Natural aspiration is a beautiful thing guys.. trust me =0)
.......and continue.
Hypothetically speaking for purposes of this thread... let's just say that forced induction is a concept that doesn't exist....
So for the remainder of this thread.. no superchargers or whipplechargers...
Natural aspiration is a beautiful thing guys.. trust me =0)
.......and continue.
06-09-2010, 07:39 AM
#18
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Virginia
Posts: 464
CIDSAMUTH!!!! with the ROUSH kit mentioned two posts above gets you right around where the 2011 begins and that is not too shabby...
with another $3K left you get plenty of NERDY stuff to begin.....don't finish the project too soon or you will need a new one too soon!!
with another $3K left you get plenty of NERDY stuff to begin.....don't finish the project too soon or you will need a new one too soon!!
Last edited by cidsamuth; 06-09-2010 at 09:59 AM.
06-09-2010, 08:41 AM
#19
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: USA
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06-09-2010, 09:22 AM
#20
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 4,491
The Whipple is NOT a roots blower, and it's more like 200+ HP with the Whipple HO kits currently on the market.