Treatment for aluminum??
#1
Treatment for aluminum??
Just entertaining the thought, not like I am going to do it but if it's possible. I may go ahead, after more research..
anywho, does anyone know if "treating aluminum" to handle very low cold temps is possible? (-25/-45), while at the same time, not effecting performance??
I may want to get the Vortech V3 head unit treated so that it can withstand the frigid northern temps during the winter without felxing and contracting too much (internal gearing,precise clearances etc.).
Any ideas??
I don't mind taking the kit on and off every winter, saves me the trouble of wheel spin (not that the centri is a low end monster anyways lol), but it would be awesome if I can just leave it on without worrying too much about it...
http://www.metroplating.co.uk/
http://www.alcastcompany.com/heattreat.html
anywho, does anyone know if "treating aluminum" to handle very low cold temps is possible? (-25/-45), while at the same time, not effecting performance??
I may want to get the Vortech V3 head unit treated so that it can withstand the frigid northern temps during the winter without felxing and contracting too much (internal gearing,precise clearances etc.).
Any ideas??
I don't mind taking the kit on and off every winter, saves me the trouble of wheel spin (not that the centri is a low end monster anyways lol), but it would be awesome if I can just leave it on without worrying too much about it...
http://www.metroplating.co.uk/
http://www.alcastcompany.com/heattreat.html
Last edited by stealth_GT; 11-27-2010 at 04:01 PM.
#2
If I remember correctly, aluminum actually becomes stronger in extreme cold temps.
Furthermore, from what I understand about aluminum and heat treating, it is not the heat treatment that makes the aluminum more resistant to thermal strains (i.e. expansion and contractions of the material due to temperature), it is the alloy of the aluminum itself that is more of a factor.
I do not pretend to be a metallurgical expert, so if someone in here is, please confirm or clarify further.
Furthermore, from what I understand about aluminum and heat treating, it is not the heat treatment that makes the aluminum more resistant to thermal strains (i.e. expansion and contractions of the material due to temperature), it is the alloy of the aluminum itself that is more of a factor.
I do not pretend to be a metallurgical expert, so if someone in here is, please confirm or clarify further.
#3
I understand the part about it becoming stronger during the cold, but the expansion rate is what I am trying to limit. The gearings and crap inside the blower gets messed up and something to do with it's precise internal clearances within the blower unit itself during extreme cold weather is what gernades it during start up... again, just entertaining the thought. It only takes about an hour total to take off the blower, and return it to CAI/tune only
http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...ger/index.html
http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...ger/index.html
Last edited by stealth_GT; 11-27-2010 at 04:25 PM.
#4
I am not sure if it is possible, but if you can rig up some sort of preheater, that way, you can warm it up before you even start your car.
Or, I don't know how feasible this is, but take an electric blanket and wrap the S/C unit's banjo casing overnight and keep it warm. That might be the cure you are looking for.
Or, I don't know how feasible this is, but take an electric blanket and wrap the S/C unit's banjo casing overnight and keep it warm. That might be the cure you are looking for.
#5
I could do all that but in those situations, I'd rather just take it off lulz
http://www.on3performance.com/mustanggt3v.html
also taking a look at this kit for the future.. the simplicity of how centris/turbos work is what is attractive to me.. not to mention their amazing power potential. At least the good thing about turbos is that it's exhaust driven.. right as I crank it, the exhaust gases warm up the compressor/turbines quickly.
edit: holy smokes.. that kit's only $1,999.99
http://www.on3performance.com/mustanggt3v.html
also taking a look at this kit for the future.. the simplicity of how centris/turbos work is what is attractive to me.. not to mention their amazing power potential. At least the good thing about turbos is that it's exhaust driven.. right as I crank it, the exhaust gases warm up the compressor/turbines quickly.
edit: holy smokes.. that kit's only $1,999.99
Last edited by stealth_GT; 11-27-2010 at 04:59 PM.
#6
True about turbos warming up quickly. And yes, their max power potential is crazy sick.
However, you should still consider prewarming those too in your frigid extreme cold weather. The instant you fire up the engine, the turbines and compressor wheels are still cold; it still takes time for the heat from the exhaust to get into the turbo wheels (they are still cold at the instant you turn the key).
However, you should still consider prewarming those too in your frigid extreme cold weather. The instant you fire up the engine, the turbines and compressor wheels are still cold; it still takes time for the heat from the exhaust to get into the turbo wheels (they are still cold at the instant you turn the key).
#7
Ditto.. I let my GT warm up at least 20 minutes before leaving to work in the early morning.. at that time it's still only 10 degrees lol
Damn! That turbo kit looks very tempting! The only problem there would be that it would drag so much during the winter since our winters up here have so much snow and then practically RIVERS of ice and water to drive through.. maybe it is a better idea to just keep the vortech off during the entire winter rofl I can put it back on late March anyways.
thanks for the tips on the blower...
Damn! That turbo kit looks very tempting! The only problem there would be that it would drag so much during the winter since our winters up here have so much snow and then practically RIVERS of ice and water to drive through.. maybe it is a better idea to just keep the vortech off during the entire winter rofl I can put it back on late March anyways.
thanks for the tips on the blower...
#9
I was pretty surprised with my ETs as well, considering they're on street tires and 4.10s. I am trying to get it down to 12.2@115 this summer w/90 octane tune and high 11s w/93 oct. when I get an intercooler/10 psi.
The air is great up here, and feels good to run at sea level.
The only bad part is that the GT is anemic without the blower.. I may get cams/intake manifold so I am not left so gutless NA.
#10
http://www.hpperformance.com/2005mus...rbosystems.htm
also interesting... less plumbing under the car from what I read
also interesting... less plumbing under the car from what I read