CAMS!!! what are they an other than the sound what good are they???
01-19-2011, 02:45 AM
#22
The Paranoid One
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,320
Really?
Ok... lets see... if you get a CAI and tuner you get 15-25hp for 550-600 dollars.
If you get cams and a tune you can get them for a little over 800 bucks
and get 30-45HP. (in my case I believe it was 46 or 47HP after the tune was set in)
CAI and Tuner is great.
Still....
How does your logic make sense?
The results for the cams seem to be better than the CAI/tune. Plus you also
get the result of a great sounding car. Those results are actually VERY close in HP to money.
Even IF you did have more HP for the money with a CAI and Tune and that part of
your argument went to you...
That does not make it the BEST thing you can do for your car as you said.
It would ONLY make it the best thing you can do FOR THE MONEY.
There is a BIG difference between the two.
You gotta pay to play my friend.
Ok... lets see... if you get a CAI and tuner you get 15-25hp for 550-600 dollars.
If you get cams and a tune you can get them for a little over 800 bucks
and get 30-45HP. (in my case I believe it was 46 or 47HP after the tune was set in)
CAI and Tuner is great.
Still....
How does your logic make sense?
The results for the cams seem to be better than the CAI/tune. Plus you also
get the result of a great sounding car. Those results are actually VERY close in HP to money.
Even IF you did have more HP for the money with a CAI and Tune and that part of
your argument went to you...
That does not make it the BEST thing you can do for your car as you said.
It would ONLY make it the best thing you can do FOR THE MONEY.
There is a BIG difference between the two.
You gotta pay to play my friend.
Last edited by Blacksmoke; 01-19-2011 at 03:00 AM.
01-19-2011, 03:49 AM
#23
5th Gear Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 2,211
@ Blacksmoke. I agree with you to a point about the Cams adding more RWHP.
but
That 30-45 HP gain is a CUMULATIVE gain. Without the CAI to help things breathe easier, you aren't going to see such big gains. Motor will be too restricted. You need a CAI to get those huge RWHP gains.
IMO, if you are modding in a sequence as the budget allows, the following is a great sequence
but
That 30-45 HP gain is a CUMULATIVE gain. Without the CAI to help things breathe easier, you aren't going to see such big gains. Motor will be too restricted. You need a CAI to get those huge RWHP gains.
IMO, if you are modding in a sequence as the budget allows, the following is a great sequence
1. Tuner + 91/92/93 Octane tune
2. CAI
3. Longtubes
3. Cams
4. Gears (3.73 or 4.10)
5. Blower
I put LT's and Cams on the same number based on cost. They run roughly the same, and have a marked difference in the cars performance. I love my LT's. Cams are coming next.
The good thing about doing mods in a order like this is that they all build upon one another. You aren't wasting money on a mod that will be useless after adding another one. That way you get the best Bang for the Buck, and a very fun car to drive
2. CAI
3. Longtubes
3. Cams
4. Gears (3.73 or 4.10)
5. Blower
I put LT's and Cams on the same number based on cost. They run roughly the same, and have a marked difference in the cars performance. I love my LT's. Cams are coming next.
The good thing about doing mods in a order like this is that they all build upon one another. You aren't wasting money on a mod that will be useless after adding another one. That way you get the best Bang for the Buck, and a very fun car to drive
01-19-2011, 11:59 AM
#25
2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 303
@ Blacksmoke. I agree with you to a point about the Cams adding more RWHP.
but
That 30-45 HP gain is a CUMULATIVE gain. Without the CAI to help things breathe easier, you aren't going to see such big gains. Motor will be too restricted. You need a CAI to get those huge RWHP gains.
IMO, if you are modding in a sequence as the budget allows, the following is a great sequence
but
That 30-45 HP gain is a CUMULATIVE gain. Without the CAI to help things breathe easier, you aren't going to see such big gains. Motor will be too restricted. You need a CAI to get those huge RWHP gains.
IMO, if you are modding in a sequence as the budget allows, the following is a great sequence
1. Tuner + 91/92/93 Octane tune
2. CAI
3. Longtubes
3. Cams
4. Gears (3.73 or 4.10)
5. Blower
I put LT's and Cams on the same number based on cost. They run roughly the same, and have a marked difference in the cars performance. I love my LT's. Cams are coming next.
The good thing about doing mods in a order like this is that they all build upon one another. You aren't wasting money on a mod that will be useless after adding another one. That way you get the best Bang for the Buck, and a very fun car to drive
2. CAI
3. Longtubes
3. Cams
4. Gears (3.73 or 4.10)
5. Blower
I put LT's and Cams on the same number based on cost. They run roughly the same, and have a marked difference in the cars performance. I love my LT's. Cams are coming next.
The good thing about doing mods in a order like this is that they all build upon one another. You aren't wasting money on a mod that will be useless after adding another one. That way you get the best Bang for the Buck, and a very fun car to drive
I agree with this 100 percent. One must also factor in the cost of labour cause this **** aint easy to put in nor is it cheap, im refering to the cams. If you screw up the Cam intall, you and the junk yard will be best friends.
01-19-2011, 08:52 PM
#26
2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: va beach, va
Posts: 210
installing cams in our cars is very easy, you are better off doing it yourself so you know its done right!
01-19-2011, 10:37 PM
#28
2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Surrey, BC Canada
Posts: 199
On the S197's, do different cams produce a different sound? Some of the ones I have heard on YouTube sound either like someone is "clapping" or "farting."
I have heard cams on the older mustangs like the foxes and they seem to produce a more a aggressive muscle car lopey sound.
I have heard cams on the older mustangs like the foxes and they seem to produce a more a aggressive muscle car lopey sound.
01-20-2011, 05:57 PM
#30
2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: va beach, va
Posts: 210
On the S197's, do different cams produce a different sound? Some of the ones I have heard on YouTube sound either like someone is "clapping" or "farting."
I have heard cams on the older mustangs like the foxes and they seem to produce a more a aggressive muscle car lopey sound.
I have heard cams on the older mustangs like the foxes and they seem to produce a more a aggressive muscle car lopey sound.