Having an issue with my power steering pump, car has a 5.0 stroker&Kenne Bell
#1
Having an issue with my power steering pump, car has a 5.0 stroker&Kenne Bell
As stated in my heading, I am having an issue with my power steering pump. I have a Livernois 5.0 stroker 2V. in my Mustang GT, the motor revs to 6,700rpm's and has a Kenne Bell 2.1 on it as well. I had originally had an alternator issue last year, due to the high revs of the stroker motor. I had to have the alternator done three times by PA performance, due to the smaller than stock pully the PA alternator comes with. I switched the alternator back the the stock size, and did not have another issue until I took it to the track at the end of last year. Needless to say the alternator over-spun again, at which time I contacted Metco in search of a larger pully. Metco sent me an 8 rib 3.25in. pully for the alternator, which with thier calculations slowed it down just slightly below stock. The pully is a wagon wheel when comparing it to stock, but does the job in slowing it down. When I installed the 3.25 alternator last year just before putting the car into hibernation for the winter, I took the car out for a walk through its paces and noticed the power steering fluid on the ground under my car the next morning. In addition to the power steering pump leak, the belt tensioner snapped. I took the car apart last week to address the tensioner and power steering pump, I replaced both on Saturday morning and started it up with no leak issues and with great belt tension again. There was barely any remnants left of the front seal of the power steering pump when I pressed the pully off it, and knew exactly why it was leaking so badly. I drove my car around Saturday all day, because I missed the power and it was nice weather. When I came out into the driveway Sunday morning, my car had a little puddle underneeth it, it got under to take a sample on my finger and realized it was power steering fluid?!? I started the car up and looked down at the power steering pump, and right away seen fluid steadily coming down from the front nose of the pully?!? I could not believe what I was seeing, which leads me to my question. Now already having the serious overdrive issue with my alternator, could it be possible that I am overdriving my power steering pump? Please note that my car did not even see 5,000rpm's when I drove it on Saturday, so it was well within stock range so there should have been no issue. I got the pump from NAPA, I dont like Advance ot Autozone for stuff like that. I called NAPA and they appoligzed and will cover it, they have one on the way for me tomorrow morning. Do any of you think I just got a fluke bad one from NAPA, and should just swap it out again and see what happens. I am probably over thinking the whole thing, I just dont want the issues I had with my alternator with this and have to change it a third time.
#2
A few things:
Wrong section your question.
Replace the entire pump. You probably bent and damaged the shaft and the internals with excess pressure.
Make sure you PERFECTLY align your PS pump off of the CRANK. If you need a suggestion in how to get it done. Ask, I'll tell.
Get a real tensioner, something with reinforcement in it. The spring will be the same presure but the bracket will not flex.
Wrong section your question.
Replace the entire pump. You probably bent and damaged the shaft and the internals with excess pressure.
Make sure you PERFECTLY align your PS pump off of the CRANK. If you need a suggestion in how to get it done. Ask, I'll tell.
Get a real tensioner, something with reinforcement in it. The spring will be the same presure but the bracket will not flex.
#4
Do you have someone who knows about these cars helping you out? I'm at a loss.
Have you spoke with KB?
#5
As stated in my heading, I am having an issue with my power steering pump. I have a Livernois 5.0 stroker 2V. in my Mustang GT, the motor revs to 6,700rpm's and has a Kenne Bell 2.1 on it as well. I had originally had an alternator issue last year, due to the high revs of the stroker motor. I had to have the alternator done three times by PA performance, due to the smaller than stock pully the PA alternator comes with. I switched the alternator back the the stock size, and did not have another issue until I took it to the track at the end of last year. Needless to say the alternator over-spun again, at which time I contacted Metco in search of a larger pully. Metco sent me an 8 rib 3.25in. pully for the alternator, which with thier calculations slowed it down just slightly below stock. The pully is a wagon wheel when comparing it to stock, but does the job in slowing it down. When I installed the 3.25 alternator last year just before putting the car into hibernation for the winter, I took the car out for a walk through its paces and noticed the power steering fluid on the ground under my car the next morning. In addition to the power steering pump leak, the belt tensioner snapped. I took the car apart last week to address the tensioner and power steering pump, I replaced both on Saturday morning and started it up with no leak issues and with great belt tension again. There was barely any remnants left of the front seal of the power steering pump when I pressed the pully off it, and knew exactly why it was leaking so badly. I drove my car around Saturday all day, because I missed the power and it was nice weather. When I came out into the driveway Sunday morning, my car had a little puddle underneeth it, it got under to take a sample on my finger and realized it was power steering fluid?!? I started the car up and looked down at the power steering pump, and right away seen fluid steadily coming down from the front nose of the pully?!? I could not believe what I was seeing, which leads me to my question. Now already having the serious overdrive issue with my alternator, could it be possible that I am overdriving my power steering pump? Please note that my car did not even see 5,000rpm's when I drove it on Saturday, so it was well within stock range so there should have been no issue. I got the pump from NAPA, I dont like Advance ot Autozone for stuff like that. I called NAPA and they appoligzed and will cover it, they have one on the way for me tomorrow morning. Do any of you think I just got a fluke bad one from NAPA, and should just swap it out again and see what happens. I am probably over thinking the whole thing, I just dont want the issues I had with my alternator with this and have to change it a third time.
#6
As stated in my heading, I am having an issue with my power steering pump. I have a Livernois 5.0 stroker 2V. in my Mustang GT, the motor revs to 6,700rpm's and has a Kenne Bell 2.1 on it as well. I had originally had an alternator issue last year, due to the high revs of the stroker motor. I had to have the alternator done three times by PA performance, due to the smaller than stock pully the PA alternator comes with. I switched the alternator back the the stock size, and did not have another issue until I took it to the track at the end of last year. Needless to say the alternator over-spun again, at which time I contacted Metco in search of a larger pully. Metco sent me an 8 rib 3.25in. pully for the alternator, which with thier calculations slowed it down just slightly below stock. The pully is a wagon wheel when comparing it to stock, but does the job in slowing it down. When I installed the 3.25 alternator last year just before putting the car into hibernation for the winter, I took the car out for a walk through its paces and noticed the power steering fluid on the ground under my car the next morning. In addition to the power steering pump leak, the belt tensioner snapped. I took the car apart last week to address the tensioner and power steering pump, I replaced both on Saturday morning and started it up with no leak issues and with great belt tension again. There was barely any remnants left of the front seal of the power steering pump when I pressed the pully off it, and knew exactly why it was leaking so badly. I drove my car around Saturday all day, because I missed the power and it was nice weather. When I came out into the driveway Sunday morning, my car had a little puddle underneeth it, it got under to take a sample on my finger and realized it was power steering fluid?!? I started the car up and looked down at the power steering pump, and right away seen fluid steadily coming down from the front nose of the pully?!? I could not believe what I was seeing, which leads me to my question. Now already having the serious overdrive issue with my alternator, could it be possible that I am overdriving my power steering pump? Please note that my car did not even see 5,000rpm's when I drove it on Saturday, so it was well within stock range so there should have been no issue. I got the pump from NAPA, I dont like Advance ot Autozone for stuff like that. I called NAPA and they appoligzed and will cover it, they have one on the way for me tomorrow morning. Do any of you think I just got a fluke bad one from NAPA, and should just swap it out again and see what happens. I am probably over thinking the whole thing, I just dont want the issues I had with my alternator with this and have to change it a third time.
#7
A couple of things off the top of my head...
Maybe put an underdrive pulley on the crank to slow everything down (smaller pulley on the s/c also to keep it up to speed)? Then the alternator and p/s pump will run stock and will take rotational velocity out of the equation. The issue with this would be the alternator needs a certain speed to start charging, might have issues at idle.
To piggyback on Simon's suggestion...maybe get a slightly longer belt? If you are bending the p/s pump shaft, maybe that could be causing issues with the alternator also? And a longer belt will be less stress on the tensioner...maybe see if you can get the edelbrock tensioner brace and file off the bling.
Rotational vibrations? Not sure if this matters with alternators and p/s pumps. Look into a fluiddamper for a crank pulley?
Maybe put an underdrive pulley on the crank to slow everything down (smaller pulley on the s/c also to keep it up to speed)? Then the alternator and p/s pump will run stock and will take rotational velocity out of the equation. The issue with this would be the alternator needs a certain speed to start charging, might have issues at idle.
To piggyback on Simon's suggestion...maybe get a slightly longer belt? If you are bending the p/s pump shaft, maybe that could be causing issues with the alternator also? And a longer belt will be less stress on the tensioner...maybe see if you can get the edelbrock tensioner brace and file off the bling.
Rotational vibrations? Not sure if this matters with alternators and p/s pumps. Look into a fluiddamper for a crank pulley?
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