jmygann

Why is the 89-93 302 Mustang engine the most popular ?

If I got a 302 out of a van instead of a mustang, what would be the difference ?

I'm doing a retro fit for mileage and was told to get a 89-93 Mustang 302.

converted

Actually, it should be 89-92? I think. They are mass air cars. The internals are the same from 87-92?, 93 has the hypereutectic(sp) pistons. The van motor won't be the high output motor. I can't remember if it will have a roller cam, but if it does, it's a smaller cam. If you are just using the motor and not the F.I. system, I would open the search to include the 87's and 88's.

jmygann

I have a 76 camper van 351 W that I want to change to a EFI smog exempt 302 auto overdrive Mustang engine for mileage. I feel the engine would bolt up to my existing motor mounts. Found complete engine and trans - $700.

Any ideas or criticisms ?

converted

the motor will bolt right up. same bellhousing bolts and motor mounts. good luck with that. I think you will be impressed with the power the 5.0 has over the 76 windsor. If I remember correctly, the 76 model 351 was only rated at something like 160 horses.

jmygann

One proplem I see is going from a c-6 to an AOD, but maybe I could find a bracket and driveline in the junk yard from an AOD trans van.



Also I copied the following....Do you agree ?



Why a Late Model 5.0L?

Over the years, Ford improved the 302 to meet the ever-increasing demands of emission and performance standards. The 302 made 225 horsepower in 1987, its highest rating ever. Fuel injection was not the only reason for the increased performance. In 1982, the Mustang GT was revived along with the 302 2V. "The Boss is Back" ads proclaimed. The new 1982 302 was improved in every way. A new 50 oz balance, new, lighter block casting and a new alumimum intake were the major differences. In 1983, the 302 became the 5.0 HO with a 4V, and a legend was born. The 1985-1995 HO engines boasted a roller cam, 2-pc fuel pump eccentric, roller timing chain, thinner rings, and much more power. All of these parts make the engine more efficient and allow it to make more power while still getting good fuel mileage.

Granted, an older 302 can be made to be just as efficient as a later model engine, but if you are looking for a powerplant, why not start more towards the end of the 302's evolution?



NOTE: All 351W engines have the 28 oz imbalance, so keep in mind that these guidelines do not apply to them.

Camshaft and Firing Order

The firing order is determined by the camshaft in your engine. If you change the camshaft, then this information may not be valid.



There are three kinds of 302s made from 1982-2001.



5.0L HO This engine was used in 1983-1995 Mustangs, Mark VII Lincolns, and some T-birds and Cougars. All Explorer 5.0L engines are 5.0L HO engines as well. They use the 351W firing order, 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8. Except for the 1983-84 Mustangs, all of these engines are roller cam equipped. They use a reverse rotation water pump and front cover. The 1994-5 Mustang and all Explorers use a unique front cover and water pump.

5.0L Full Size Car This engine was used in 1982-1990 Crown Victoria and Grand Marquis. They use the 289-302 firing order, 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8. Most of these cars are not roller cam equipped, however sometime in the early 1990s they started using roller cams but retained the 302 firing order. They use a standard (clockwise) rotation water pump and front cover.

5.0L Truck (except Explorer) These engines are similar to the Full Size Car engines, except they use different intake manifolds and camshaft profiles. They also use the 289-302 firing order, 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8. They also began using roller cams sometime in the early 1990s. They use a reverse rotation water pump and front cover.



ALL 302 5.0L engines from 1982-up have the 50 oz imbalance.

makarovboy

I thought they used the hyper pistons in all the H.O. motors, not just the '93 (which I have) I think that ford derated the horsepower in '93 to 215 from 225 in the other H.O. 5.0's, even though it's the same motor. So with all my "so called" mods I'm only hypothectically running 245hp while the earlier H.O.'s are about 265hp with the same mods? I think that ford was fudging a bit.