Any way to use EFI on stroker?
08-05-2006, 05:21 PM
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RE: Any way to use EFI on stroker?
ahhhh......yeah! There is no difference. You have the block bored and then all thats changed after that is the crank, rods, pistons. All you have to do is just put your intake back on and hook up the lines. You will need a tune i would imagine. Not to sound sarcastic but go get a MM&FF book or a 5.0 magazine. Has EFI strokers in there all the time.
08-05-2006, 05:22 PM
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RE: Any way to use EFI on stroker?
ORIGINAL: nick_thames
ahhhh......yeah! There is no difference. You have the block bored and then all thats changed after that is the crank, rods, pistons. All you have to do is just put your intake back on and hook up the lines. You will need a tune i would imagine. Not to sound sarcastic but go get a MM&FF book or a 5.0 magazine. Has EFI strokers in there all the time.
ahhhh......yeah! There is no difference. You have the block bored and then all thats changed after that is the crank, rods, pistons. All you have to do is just put your intake back on and hook up the lines. You will need a tune i would imagine. Not to sound sarcastic but go get a MM&FF book or a 5.0 magazine. Has EFI strokers in there all the time.
Whats a magazine, I though everone got thier car info off the internet?[&:][8D]
Yes, you just need a tune. I know a guy running 8's with a 400+ CI small block and he still has a stock computor in the car.
08-05-2006, 05:28 PM
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RE: Any way to use EFI on stroker?
Thanks a lot, you guys seem to know what you're talking about. I see a lot of people on here with carb'd strokers and I guess I got the wrong idea. Thanks
08-05-2006, 05:31 PM
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RE: Any way to use EFI on stroker?
ORIGINAL: nick_thames
Not to sound sarcastic but go get a MM&FF book or a 5.0 magazine. Has EFI strokers in there all the time.
Not to sound sarcastic but go get a MM&FF book or a 5.0 magazine. Has EFI strokers in there all the time.
08-05-2006, 05:42 PM
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RE: Any way to use EFI on stroker?
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08-06-2006, 05:33 PM
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RE: Any way to use EFI on stroker?
You do NOT need a custom tune for a stroker.
The computer will be ok with the displacement increase, unless you also have a H/C/I, and good size injectors.
What computer are you using?
Here is a list of reading, both general automotive and Mustang specific.
I have a couple so I will break them into groups. (My opinions on each are in paranthesis)
Mustang Specific (not worth full price if you frequent Stangnet, but still fun reads)
How to Tune & Modify Your Ford 5.0-Liter Mustang by Turner
5.0L Ford Dyno Tests by Holdener
Mustang Performance Handbook by Sessler
Ford V-8s On A Budget by Monroe
The Official Ford Mustang 5.0 Technical Reference & Performance Handbook by Kirschenbaum
Ford Engine Parts Interchange by Reid
Engine Building & Re-Building
How To Rebuild Small-Block Ford Engines by Monroe
The Step-By-Step Guide to Engine Blueprinting by Voegelin
I used both of these heavily while building my first motor.
Math/Calculations
Automotive Math Handbook by Aird
Auto Math Handbook by Lawlor
Great for ETs, Gear Calculations/Speeds, Volumetric Efficiency, Carb sizing, Braking, Cg, etc. Probably only need one or the other.
General Performance
Bosch Automotive Handbook Published by SAE with various authors
Numerous Professional Automotive Engineers write on a variety of topics. If you could only purchase one book I would recommend this one. It covers every automotive system, in theory and application, such as Material Properties, chassis design, and aerodynamics. Some developing technologies as well such as Hybrid powertrains. Mathematical definitions are given as well as written definitions. May only be available from SAE, and they update every couple of years. I think the 6th edition is current.
Four-Stroke Performance Tuning by A. Graham Bell
One of my favorites, I just keep going back to it. I especially like the chapters on cooling/oiling systems and cam design. Formulas are given in many chapters, as the book is intended as a "how to" for the technically knowledgable. Not just theory, but practical application for street and race use. Some chapters are very similar to Bell's Boost book described below, so one or the other may be sufficient.
Performance Tuning in Theory & Practice by A. Graham Bell
I am currently finishing this up. It is an older and out of date version of the book above, but has some detailed info on points distributors and carbs. Very detailed info. You will have to search for it though, I believe the last publishing date was in the '80s.
Power Adders
Maximum Boost Designing, Testing and Installing Turbocharger Systems by Corky Bell
Have not read yet, but this is one of the most recognized books on practical design of turbo setups, both carb and efi.
Forced Induction Performance Tuning A Practical Guide To Supercharging and Turbocharging by A. Graham Bell
Again, one of my favorites. This is a Boost specific version of the Four Stroke book listed above. Maybe one or the other would be sufficient.
EEC-IV Specific
Ford Fuel Injection & Electronic Engine Control How to Understand, Service and Modify by Probst
If you are serious about taking care of your Mustang yourself this book is a must read, no debate. All of the theory on how the computer works is described in an easy to understand way. The diagnostic sections are worth more than their weight in gold.
Repair and Maintenance
Mustang Car Shop Manual Published by Ford Service Publications
This is tougher to find as it is only available from Ford/the publisher. It will be year specific, for example my text is for my year of Mustang. It is fairly expensive too, if I remember correctly. Only covers Body/Chassis Electrical/Powertrain.
Haynes or Chiltons for your year/application
Both have their advantages/disadvantages. I recently found some old, outdated Chiltons in a used book store, which had some good info on fuel economy, reading vac gauges, and color pics for reading plugs. Very sweet deal for six bucks.
The computer will be ok with the displacement increase, unless you also have a H/C/I, and good size injectors.
What computer are you using?
Here is a list of reading, both general automotive and Mustang specific.
I have a couple so I will break them into groups. (My opinions on each are in paranthesis)
Mustang Specific (not worth full price if you frequent Stangnet, but still fun reads)
How to Tune & Modify Your Ford 5.0-Liter Mustang by Turner
5.0L Ford Dyno Tests by Holdener
Mustang Performance Handbook by Sessler
Ford V-8s On A Budget by Monroe
The Official Ford Mustang 5.0 Technical Reference & Performance Handbook by Kirschenbaum
Ford Engine Parts Interchange by Reid
Engine Building & Re-Building
How To Rebuild Small-Block Ford Engines by Monroe
The Step-By-Step Guide to Engine Blueprinting by Voegelin
I used both of these heavily while building my first motor.
Math/Calculations
Automotive Math Handbook by Aird
Auto Math Handbook by Lawlor
Great for ETs, Gear Calculations/Speeds, Volumetric Efficiency, Carb sizing, Braking, Cg, etc. Probably only need one or the other.
General Performance
Bosch Automotive Handbook Published by SAE with various authors
Numerous Professional Automotive Engineers write on a variety of topics. If you could only purchase one book I would recommend this one. It covers every automotive system, in theory and application, such as Material Properties, chassis design, and aerodynamics. Some developing technologies as well such as Hybrid powertrains. Mathematical definitions are given as well as written definitions. May only be available from SAE, and they update every couple of years. I think the 6th edition is current.
Four-Stroke Performance Tuning by A. Graham Bell
One of my favorites, I just keep going back to it. I especially like the chapters on cooling/oiling systems and cam design. Formulas are given in many chapters, as the book is intended as a "how to" for the technically knowledgable. Not just theory, but practical application for street and race use. Some chapters are very similar to Bell's Boost book described below, so one or the other may be sufficient.
Performance Tuning in Theory & Practice by A. Graham Bell
I am currently finishing this up. It is an older and out of date version of the book above, but has some detailed info on points distributors and carbs. Very detailed info. You will have to search for it though, I believe the last publishing date was in the '80s.
Power Adders
Maximum Boost Designing, Testing and Installing Turbocharger Systems by Corky Bell
Have not read yet, but this is one of the most recognized books on practical design of turbo setups, both carb and efi.
Forced Induction Performance Tuning A Practical Guide To Supercharging and Turbocharging by A. Graham Bell
Again, one of my favorites. This is a Boost specific version of the Four Stroke book listed above. Maybe one or the other would be sufficient.
EEC-IV Specific
Ford Fuel Injection & Electronic Engine Control How to Understand, Service and Modify by Probst
If you are serious about taking care of your Mustang yourself this book is a must read, no debate. All of the theory on how the computer works is described in an easy to understand way. The diagnostic sections are worth more than their weight in gold.
Repair and Maintenance
Mustang Car Shop Manual Published by Ford Service Publications
This is tougher to find as it is only available from Ford/the publisher. It will be year specific, for example my text is for my year of Mustang. It is fairly expensive too, if I remember correctly. Only covers Body/Chassis Electrical/Powertrain.
Haynes or Chiltons for your year/application
Both have their advantages/disadvantages. I recently found some old, outdated Chiltons in a used book store, which had some good info on fuel economy, reading vac gauges, and color pics for reading plugs. Very sweet deal for six bucks.
