smoke!
12-11-2006, 07:51 PM
#13
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Join Date: May 2006
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RE: smoke!
ORIGINAL: 92Mustanglx
you sure it wasent 195 or 295?
ORIGINAL: 88MustangGX
mine was doin the same thing. it could be the rings or the valve seals. i just took my engine out and am overhaulin it. mine only had 95k on it [:@]
i'll be honest, it was a so simple to take it apart and take it out of the car. unfortunatly you can't tell whats wrong with it unless you tear it down. good luck
mine was doin the same thing. it could be the rings or the valve seals. i just took my engine out and am overhaulin it. mine only had 95k on it [:@]
i'll be honest, it was a so simple to take it apart and take it out of the car. unfortunatly you can't tell whats wrong with it unless you tear it down. good luck
12-11-2006, 07:54 PM
#15
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RE: smoke!
Well, P Zero, like i said i've never gone this deep into a car, but would absolutely love to learn. I just bought the car 3-4 months ago, and would HATE to have to get rid of it. I really cant afford a rebuild, and parents are NOT an option!
12-11-2006, 07:59 PM
#16
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Colorado
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RE: smoke!
I have a similiar problem, Here is the steps i plan on taking when i get a chance....
1. Check compression in order to make sure my rings aren't going bad (surprised nobody said anything about compression check)
2. if compression is still good, then it's either valve guides or valve seals, if compression is bad, probably rings (not likely since it only has 10,000 miles on the block)
3. remove heads and take them to machinist to have new valve guides pressed in and new valve seals installed, possibly stiffer springs since the person i bought it from did not get the upgraded springs on the AFR 185s he put on.
4. Reinstall...
1. Check compression in order to make sure my rings aren't going bad (surprised nobody said anything about compression check)
2. if compression is still good, then it's either valve guides or valve seals, if compression is bad, probably rings (not likely since it only has 10,000 miles on the block)
3. remove heads and take them to machinist to have new valve guides pressed in and new valve seals installed, possibly stiffer springs since the person i bought it from did not get the upgraded springs on the AFR 185s he put on.
4. Reinstall...
12-11-2006, 08:11 PM
#18
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RE: smoke!
Signs for valve seals are usually at start up and when engine braking, rings you'll notice when on the throttle...especially higher RPM. Just because you're seeing smoke does not mean the engine is a goner...my old 200,000 mile mill had a terrible thirst for oil near the end, was a chain smoker under the gun but still managed 'decent' hot oil pressure, 'decent' power, and relatively good milage right up to the day I pulled her. Basically if you can live with the smoke (likely because you have no choice right now) and pressure is good, then simply start to save for the rebuild. Quite honestly at 200,000 the motor is going to have both seal and ring issues among other things and a rebuild would be prefered, but not required.
12-12-2006, 12:45 AM
#19
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RE: smoke!
ORIGINAL: dman302
Signs for valve seals are usually at start up and when engine braking, rings you'll notice when on the throttle...especially higher RPM. Just because you're seeing smoke does not mean the engine is a goner...my old 200,000 mile mill had a terrible thirst for oil near the end, was a chain smoker under the gun but still managed 'decent' hot oil pressure, 'decent' power, and relatively good milage right up to the day I pulled her. Basically if you can live with the smoke (likely because you have no choice right now) and pressure is good, then simply start to save for the rebuild. Quite honestly at 200,000 the motor is going to have both seal and ring issues among other things and a rebuild would be prefered, but not required.
Signs for valve seals are usually at start up and when engine braking, rings you'll notice when on the throttle...especially higher RPM. Just because you're seeing smoke does not mean the engine is a goner...my old 200,000 mile mill had a terrible thirst for oil near the end, was a chain smoker under the gun but still managed 'decent' hot oil pressure, 'decent' power, and relatively good milage right up to the day I pulled her. Basically if you can live with the smoke (likely because you have no choice right now) and pressure is good, then simply start to save for the rebuild. Quite honestly at 200,000 the motor is going to have both seal and ring issues among other things and a rebuild would be prefered, but not required.
12-12-2006, 12:51 AM
#20
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RE: smoke!
Well like an old tractor...they'll run till somethin breaks...burning oil may look terrible, may not be enviormentally friendly, may not be optimum for performance or gas milage, but if all that's wrong with it worn rings then no reason she can't continue on for a surprisingly long time. Conditions that cause oil usage really don't affect engine life, you can burn a quart a week and still see excellent pressure and have the bearings be in A1 shape.