afr 165 or trick flow twisted wedge?
#21
RE: afr 165 or trick flow twisted wedge?
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See? I can do it too
Seriously though...people on this site can be ridiculous sometimes. Everyone is so quick to hop on the AFR bandwagon that they ignore a little detail every single time- TW's and 165's are pretty much equal, and if anything the wedges outflow the 165s. People can't seem to get this through their heads, no matter how many threads we have discussing it... Now compare both of those after porting, and the AFRs get blown out of the water. Not to mention that the TFs are still a good bit cheaper.
Table 1: Intake Flow (CFM 28" H20) lift (in.) TFS* AFR .100 62 60 .200 131 125 .300 193 188 1.400 230 226 .500 242 238 .600 242 248 Avg. 199 194.3
Exhaust Flow (CFM 28" H20) lift (in.) AFR TFS .100 52 48 .200 100 97 .300 142 134 .400 168 161 .500 181 178 .600 189 189 Avg. 148.7 142.5
See? I can do it too
Seriously though...people on this site can be ridiculous sometimes. Everyone is so quick to hop on the AFR bandwagon that they ignore a little detail every single time- TW's and 165's are pretty much equal, and if anything the wedges outflow the 165s. People can't seem to get this through their heads, no matter how many threads we have discussing it... Now compare both of those after porting, and the AFRs get blown out of the water. Not to mention that the TFs are still a good bit cheaper.
Table 1: Intake Flow (CFM 28" H20) lift (in.) TFS* AFR .100 62 60 .200 131 125 .300 193 188 1.400 230 226 .500 242 238 .600 242 248 Avg. 199 194.3
Exhaust Flow (CFM 28" H20) lift (in.) AFR TFS .100 52 48 .200 100 97 .300 142 134 .400 168 161 .500 181 178 .600 189 189 Avg. 148.7 142.5
#24
RE: afr 165 or trick flow twisted wedge?
In one of the Head chart comparrisons i have it shows the AFRs outflowing the Trickflows by a lot on the exhaust side, which is why i'm guessing the AFRs usually make more power than the TFTW even though the intake numbers are very similar. My dad has a set of TFTW heads and I have AFR 165s, we put them side by side and after looking at the ports its pretty easy to see why the AFRs cost more. From what ive seen online the AFRs usually make more power than the Trickflows regardless of what the charts say.
#25
RE: afr 165 or trick flow twisted wedge?
also keep in mind that between the twisted wedge and 165s, the tw have bigger intake valves. 2.02 vs 1.9
i bought my 165s because the tech dude i was talking to at afr recommended it over its higher flow bretheren.
link for you nooblets out there(damn, i feel sorry for you folk running stock heads)
i bought my 165s because the tech dude i was talking to at afr recommended it over its higher flow bretheren.
link for you nooblets out there(damn, i feel sorry for you folk running stock heads)
#28
RE: afr 165 or trick flow twisted wedge?
ok tell me which would be better and whats the hp estimates
holley 650 doubple pumper
victor jr intake
trick flow heads (not ported) or would i need to do somet port work to get the to run right?
.512 custom ground cam (do i need a bigger one)
.40 over flatop stock style pistons
let me know and then how would it be if the heads were afrs?
holley 650 doubple pumper
victor jr intake
trick flow heads (not ported) or would i need to do somet port work to get the to run right?
.512 custom ground cam (do i need a bigger one)
.40 over flatop stock style pistons
let me know and then how would it be if the heads were afrs?
#29
RE: afr 165 or trick flow twisted wedge?
I like them both but DSS told me to go with AFRs. With your set up I would either get the CNC ported Trick Flows or the 185 AFRs. They will be close in price and are both excellent choices. Be careful with the stock style pistons and 2.02 valves. A custom cam would be better that way it can be ground with the proper timing needed to clear.
#30
RE: afr 165 or trick flow twisted wedge?
ok what would be some good pistons. cam and heads that will all match good and be fairly under 1300 or so. forged aluminum pistons and stuff? let me know what would be good and the hp estimate