Gearbox is grinding in every gear
08-15-2007, 08:08 PM
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RE: Gearbox is grinding in every gear
ORIGINAL: dimebag
alright ur not giving us alota info, so heres some questions... answer the best you can, and ill be able to give you a good idea of what the problem is
did this only start after the clutch?
where in the pedal travel does the clutch enguage/dissenguage?
does it do it every single gear?
does it do it w. the car off, and putting it in gear?
does it grind and then go in? or just grind and say **** you?
any knowledge of the trans? how old? etc....
stock quadrant? or aftermarket?
alright ur not giving us alota info, so heres some questions... answer the best you can, and ill be able to give you a good idea of what the problem is
did this only start after the clutch?
where in the pedal travel does the clutch enguage/dissenguage?
does it do it every single gear?
does it do it w. the car off, and putting it in gear?
does it grind and then go in? or just grind and say **** you?
any knowledge of the trans? how old? etc....
stock quadrant? or aftermarket?
Ok, here's the story (short version)
The car wasn't taking gear. The mechanic said I needed a new clutch. I got a King Cobra. When the mechanic dropped the gearbox to install the clutch we found 2 things wrong:
1. Clutch for was broken
2. Tranny was broken - Had a big crack in it
I bought a new clutch fork and took the tranny to the welders to get the crack repaired. We also noticed the crossmember was rusted so I got a new one of those as well....anyway....
Put the gearbox and clutch fork in, car still won't take gear. To answer your questions...
1. No
2. I'm not sure. How do I tell?
3. I tried up to 3rd gear and it was still grinding
4. With the car off, it goes into all the gears. Haven't put it in gear and started tho'. The car is on jack right now.
5. I didn't try pushing it all the way. I just heard the grind and I let off.
6. I pretty certain it's the stock tranny. It's a 1990 GT so...17 years...
7. As far as I know it's the stock quardrant.
I ordered a new heavy duty clutch cable, with quardrant and firewall adjuster. I just don't want to put the cable in and it's still happening. That would **** me off!
08-15-2007, 09:23 PM
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RE: Gearbox is grinding in every gear
ORIGINAL: cleanfitty
How was the pilot bearing??? Also, did the cable get adjusted???
Is my king cobra the only one in the world thats not stiff???
How was the pilot bearing??? Also, did the cable get adjusted???
Is my king cobra the only one in the world thats not stiff???
Pilot bearing? I don't know what that is. Yes the clutch was adjusted. Did you change you clutch cable as well?
08-15-2007, 09:26 PM
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RE: Gearbox is grinding in every gear
man having the trans cracked, you really need to have a tranny shop look at it... something caused that crack, and things in a t5 need to be right where they belong(i would know, im currently in the final stages of rebuilding one of mine, if work were slower, it would be done by now)
i think you have one of two problems. either 1. the clutch is not disenguaging all the way... you can adjust the stock quadrant... get under the dash... play w. the clutch pedal, youll see a yellowish plastic thing movin... one part is like a half circle, and has a hook on the end, and it touches another small part... what you need to do is press the clutch in and hold it, then find a way to hold up the smaller part of the quadrant while you slowly let out, or pull out, the clutch, and you will hear a click... do this one click at a time, you will be able to feel the differance each time, so do it untill you feel the clutch grab/not grab about half way thru its travel. if that fixes it then youll be good for a little while, but i suggest getting a new aftermarket quadrant, and cable. the stocker breaks easy, again id know, its happened to me.
if that does not fix your problem, you need to drop the trans, and take it to a trans shop to get looked at... it sounds to me like something could be ****ed up w. the syncros, be it a spring, or other parts involved...
so try the 1st thing, then if no avail, drop the trans and have it looked at
i think you have one of two problems. either 1. the clutch is not disenguaging all the way... you can adjust the stock quadrant... get under the dash... play w. the clutch pedal, youll see a yellowish plastic thing movin... one part is like a half circle, and has a hook on the end, and it touches another small part... what you need to do is press the clutch in and hold it, then find a way to hold up the smaller part of the quadrant while you slowly let out, or pull out, the clutch, and you will hear a click... do this one click at a time, you will be able to feel the differance each time, so do it untill you feel the clutch grab/not grab about half way thru its travel. if that fixes it then youll be good for a little while, but i suggest getting a new aftermarket quadrant, and cable. the stocker breaks easy, again id know, its happened to me.
if that does not fix your problem, you need to drop the trans, and take it to a trans shop to get looked at... it sounds to me like something could be ****ed up w. the syncros, be it a spring, or other parts involved...
so try the 1st thing, then if no avail, drop the trans and have it looked at
08-15-2007, 09:29 PM
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RE: Gearbox is grinding in every gear
ORIGINAL: AndySpeed
its the cable.. and hopfully u machined ur flywheel and it isnt under spec.. but i aready went though all this with my buds stang.. its probably the cable. The dude could of messed up i guess while installing the clutch but ya start it in gear and hold the clutch see what it dose then.. my buddys took off and the clutch pedal didnt do nothing for him.. and he had the pressure plate in backwards once and when he let of the clutch pedal the car stopd.. pushed it in the car took off.. so it could be a few things
its the cable.. and hopfully u machined ur flywheel and it isnt under spec.. but i aready went though all this with my buds stang.. its probably the cable. The dude could of messed up i guess while installing the clutch but ya start it in gear and hold the clutch see what it dose then.. my buddys took off and the clutch pedal didnt do nothing for him.. and he had the pressure plate in backwards once and when he let of the clutch pedal the car stopd.. pushed it in the car took off.. so it could be a few things
08-15-2007, 09:35 PM
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RE: Gearbox is grinding in every gear
ORIGINAL: dimebag
how the **** does that happen????? like seriously... how the **** do you do that?
ORIGINAL: AndySpeed
its the cable.. and hopfully u machined ur flywheel and it isnt under spec.. but i aready went though all this with my buds stang.. its probably the cable. The dude could of messed up i guess while installing the clutch but ya start it in gear and hold the clutch see what it dose then.. my buddys took off and the clutch pedal didnt do nothing for him.. and he had the pressure plate in backwards once and when he let of the clutch pedal the car stopd.. pushed it in the car took off.. so it could be a few things
its the cable.. and hopfully u machined ur flywheel and it isnt under spec.. but i aready went though all this with my buds stang.. its probably the cable. The dude could of messed up i guess while installing the clutch but ya start it in gear and hold the clutch see what it dose then.. my buddys took off and the clutch pedal didnt do nothing for him.. and he had the pressure plate in backwards once and when he let of the clutch pedal the car stopd.. pushed it in the car took off.. so it could be a few things
Andyspeed... might want to take your car to a professional instead next time it needs work..
08-15-2007, 09:47 PM
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RE: Gearbox is grinding in every gear
ORIGINAL: dimebag
man having the trans cracked, you really need to have a tranny shop look at it... something caused that crack, and things in a t5 need to be right where they belong(i would know, im currently in the final stages of rebuilding one of mine, if work were slower, it would be done by now)
i think you have one of two problems. either 1. the clutch is not disenguaging all the way... you can adjust the stock quadrant... get under the dash... play w. the clutch pedal, youll see a yellowish plastic thing movin... one part is like a half circle, and has a hook on the end, and it touches another small part... what you need to do is press the clutch in and hold it, then find a way to hold up the smaller part of the quadrant while you slowly let out, or pull out, the clutch, and you will hear a click... do this one click at a time, you will be able to feel the differance each time, so do it untill you feel the clutch grab/not grab about half way thru its travel. if that fixes it then youll be good for a little while, but i suggest getting a new aftermarket quadrant, and cable. the stocker breaks easy, again id know, its happened to me.
if that does not fix your problem, you need to drop the trans, and take it to a trans shop to get looked at... it sounds to me like something could be ****ed up w. the syncros, be it a spring, or other parts involved...
so try the 1st thing, then if no avail, drop the trans and have it looked at
man having the trans cracked, you really need to have a tranny shop look at it... something caused that crack, and things in a t5 need to be right where they belong(i would know, im currently in the final stages of rebuilding one of mine, if work were slower, it would be done by now)
i think you have one of two problems. either 1. the clutch is not disenguaging all the way... you can adjust the stock quadrant... get under the dash... play w. the clutch pedal, youll see a yellowish plastic thing movin... one part is like a half circle, and has a hook on the end, and it touches another small part... what you need to do is press the clutch in and hold it, then find a way to hold up the smaller part of the quadrant while you slowly let out, or pull out, the clutch, and you will hear a click... do this one click at a time, you will be able to feel the differance each time, so do it untill you feel the clutch grab/not grab about half way thru its travel. if that fixes it then youll be good for a little while, but i suggest getting a new aftermarket quadrant, and cable. the stocker breaks easy, again id know, its happened to me.
if that does not fix your problem, you need to drop the trans, and take it to a trans shop to get looked at... it sounds to me like something could be ****ed up w. the syncros, be it a spring, or other parts involved...
so try the 1st thing, then if no avail, drop the trans and have it looked at
I'll definitely give that a try.