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legendlime05 08-23-2007 01:17 PM

fastest stock 5.0
 
Im looking to get a 5.0 stang dont care what yr. but whatis the fastest stock 5.0? is there a diff in the body styles that makes the car totally diff?
thanks guys

ZachW04Stang 08-23-2007 01:22 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
Supossedly the 85 notchback 5.0 5 speeds can be made to achieve the best ets. But 87-up notches have dipped well into the 13s with aods and 5 speeds.

FivePointOhh 08-23-2007 01:27 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
well "fastest" stock 5.0 would be the 93 cobra. but getting one of those is kind of pricey! i say the 89 notch 5 speed would be the fastest, its mass air, no air bags, wieghs just over 3k plus driver and its most likely the sexiest car ever.....

primetime5.0 08-23-2007 03:30 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 

ORIGINAL: FivePointOhh

well "fastest" stock 5.0 would be the 93 cobra. but getting one of those is kind of pricey! i say the 89 notch 5 speed would be the fastest, its mass air, no air bags, wieghs just over 3k plus driver and its most likely the sexiest car ever.....
non mass air cars are faster stock vs stock..

FuzzyDiceRule 08-23-2007 03:52 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 

ORIGINAL: primetime5.0


ORIGINAL: FivePointOhh

well "fastest" stock 5.0 would be the 93 cobra. but getting one of those is kind of pricey! i say the 89 notch 5 speed would be the fastest, its mass air, no air bags, wieghs just over 3k plus driver and its most likely the sexiest car ever.....
non mass air cars are faster stock vs stock..

oh snap

stock for stock, 87-92 are pretty much the same, 93's have different pistons and make less power

FivePointOhh 08-23-2007 04:24 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
bet you the 93 cobra stock is faster than all those cars.

primetime5.0 08-23-2007 04:32 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 

ORIGINAL: FivePointOhh

bet you the 93 cobra stock is faster than all those cars.
well I certainly hope so

87gt5speed 08-23-2007 06:07 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
technical the a 87 notch should be the fastest 5.0 besides the 93 cobra. because in 1988 ford change the cam in the 5.0 that resulted in a 3 hp loss that they never made public. and 87 has a slightly bigger throttle body than an 86. but the difference between any 86-93 5.0 is + or - 5 hp wich is nothing you would ever notice. also a 1993 non-cobra still has the same hp as the years before. in 1993 ford changed the way the measured the hp on their cars. before 1993 they didn't measure it with the alternator and power steering pump connected. also they left off the restrictive factory intake (everyone changes that whenthey get a stock 5.0 because it is so bad).

WhiteFoxGT 08-23-2007 06:21 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
None....buy a Mod motor'd car (PI or 4v) [8D][&:]

Dont buy a car because of how fast it is stock...From 85-up they are all pretty much even. Its the simple mods you do to them that will make it go. A few crank HP shouldnt be a desiding factor.

Jfsram 08-23-2007 07:40 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
Technically, according to what I've read, my neighbour told me, blah blah blah. All theory with no proof.

I've seen more 87-88 5 spds dip into the 13's than 89-93's. Never owned or driven or even knew anyone with a true stock 93 Cobra with driver mod so this may be the king.

Presently have a stock 93 coupe. Stock meaning throttle body to cylinder head, intake to oil pan. I do have some external modifications. Alum driveshaft, 3.73, meter, air filter, long tubes and Flowmasters. It went 13.6@102. Truth is I'm not impressed.
My last Mustang was a 88 LX hatch. 280,000kms and burning 1L of oil every 1000km. Stock from air silencer, paper air filter, 4 catalytics and the ugly and quiet Ford mufflers. It was5 spd with the stock shifter that everyone is soquick toswap out. A set of 3.08 and a trac loc so worn it acted like an open. 13.9 @ 99. Slower than my present nice shiney lowered 5oh but the rusted 88 truely impressed me.

tp65 08-23-2007 08:00 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
How come a sn95 cant run low 14s stock like a fox?

CantStopTheFox... 08-23-2007 08:33 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
Check out these links...a Mustang History Lesson :eek:

http://www.mustangregistry.org/year.htm

http://home.pon.net/hunnicutt/history.htm

87gt5speed 08-23-2007 08:39 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
an sn95 can't run low 14's because they are 250+ lb heavier than a fox. also i heard that they change the fireing order in 94 that resulted in a loss of power but i not 100% sure about that.

Maxwelhse 08-23-2007 08:52 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
Alot of you guys need this book...

http://www.amazon.com/Official-Ford-...409&sr=8-1


Badly...

94StinkinLincoln 08-23-2007 09:14 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
firing order is the same, some foxes made a published 225hp, sn95 is 215. sn95 is about 300lbs heavier

stang8689 08-23-2007 09:33 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
93's should be faster cause the hypereutectic pistons are lighter than forged. Forged is better for a power adder but if going for stock it would be 93.

primetime5.0 08-23-2007 09:36 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 

ORIGINAL: stang8689

93's should be faster cause the hypereutectic pistons are lighter than forged. Forged is better for a power adder but if going for stock it would be 93.

the pistons might be lighter, but remember they have air bags and mass air which weighs more..

FullAuto 08-23-2007 10:08 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
87-88 5 speed coupes were the quickest stock (speed density and different cam).

AdderMk2 08-23-2007 10:26 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 

ORIGINAL: tp65

How come a sn95 cant run low 14s stock like a fox?
because you cant drive....

I put my car into the 13's with just exhaust

gearbanger 08-23-2007 10:57 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 

ORIGINAL: AdderMk2


ORIGINAL: tp65

How come a sn95 cant run low 14s stock like a fox?
because you cant drive....

I put my car into the 13's with just exhaust

one problem... you have a cobra:D

AdderMk2 08-23-2007 10:59 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
so.... he said SN-95

gearbanger 08-23-2007 10:59 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 

ORIGINAL: Jfsram

Technically, according to what I've read, my neighbour told me, blah blah blah. All theory with no proof.

I've seen more 87-88 5 spds dip into the 13's than 89-93's. Never owned or driven or even knew anyone with a true stock 93 Cobra with driver mod so this may be the king.

Presently have a stock 93 coupe. Stock meaning throttle body to cylinder head, intake to oil pan. I do have some external modifications. Alum driveshaft, 3.73, meter, air filter, long tubes and Flowmasters. It went 13.6@102. Truth is I'm not impressed.
My last Mustang was a 88 LX hatch. 280,000kms and burning 1L of oil every 1000km. Stock from air silencer, paper air filter, 4 catalytics and the ugly and quiet Ford mufflers. It was5 spd with the stock shifter that everyone is soquick toswap out. A set of 3.08 and a trac loc so worn it acted like an open. 13.9 @ 99. Slower than my present nice shiney lowered 5oh but the rusted 88 truely impressed me.
i have a hard time beliving that a bone stock even air silencer running 13.9 @ 99...

gearbanger 08-23-2007 11:01 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 

ORIGINAL: AdderMk2

so.... he said SN-95
[8D]

AdderMk2 08-23-2007 11:04 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
why should my car be dragged down because his is inadequate?

"my gt is slow.. blah blah blah"

shoulda bought a cobra!

nacanitihs 08-23-2007 11:14 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 

ORIGINAL: gearbanger


ORIGINAL: Jfsram

Technically, according to what I've read, my neighbour told me, blah blah blah. All theory with no proof.

I've seen more 87-88 5 spds dip into the 13's than 89-93's. Never owned or driven or even knew anyone with a true stock 93 Cobra with driver mod so this may be the king.

Presently have a stock 93 coupe. Stock meaning throttle body to cylinder head, intake to oil pan. I do have some external modifications. Alum driveshaft, 3.73, meter, air filter, long tubes and Flowmasters. It went 13.6@102. Truth is I'm not impressed.
My last Mustang was a 88 LX hatch. 280,000kms and burning 1L of oil every 1000km. Stock from air silencer, paper air filter, 4 catalytics and the ugly and quiet Ford mufflers. It was5 spd with the stock shifter that everyone is soquick toswap out. A set of 3.08 and a trac loc so worn it acted like an open. 13.9 @ 99. Slower than my present nice shiney lowered 5oh but the rusted 88 truely impressed me.
i have a hard time beliving that a bone stock even air silencer running 13.9 @ 99...

i agree. my car is basically stock except full exhaust and 3.73s w/ no air silencer and the best i could get was a 14.1 @96mph on street tires at 25psi w/ little to no wheel spin and a 60' of 1.9 at about 65-70 degrees at a reletavily low elevation

gearbanger 08-23-2007 11:20 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
damn put some periods or comma's in ther i lost my breath lol

Jmag034 08-23-2007 11:33 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
probably because you READ POSTS OUTLOUD?!?!

getafewlives 08-23-2007 11:46 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 

ORIGINAL: gearbanger


ORIGINAL: AdderMk2


ORIGINAL: tp65

How come a sn95 cant run low 14s stock like a fox?
because you cant drive....

I put my car into the 13's with just exhaust

one problem... you have a cobra:D
ya you cheater!

gearbanger 08-23-2007 11:50 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 

ORIGINAL: Jmag034

probably because you READ POSTS OUTLOUD?!?!
mabe:).... i was just bieing a smart ass... lol

90_Mustang_GT 08-24-2007 08:01 AM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
Ya i had a guy where i live in indiana that had a bone stock 93 Cobra, sweeeet ride for sale at $20,000 i believe.

WhiteWindsor 08-24-2007 08:24 AM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
My "STOCK 89" is kinda of peppy. There is another guy who is almost stock, i think his runs pretty good too.

Jfsram 08-24-2007 11:50 AM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 

ORIGINAL: nacanitihs


ORIGINAL: gearbanger


ORIGINAL: Jfsram

Technically, according to what I've read, my neighbour told me, blah blah blah. All theory with no proof.

I've seen more 87-88 5 spds dip into the 13's than 89-93's. Never owned or driven or even knew anyone with a true stock 93 Cobra with driver mod so this may be the king.

Presently have a stock 93 coupe. Stock meaning throttle body to cylinder head, intake to oil pan. I do have some external modifications. Alum driveshaft, 3.73, meter, air filter, long tubes and Flowmasters. It went 13.6@102. Truth is I'm not impressed.
My last Mustang was a 88 LX hatch. 280,000kms and burning 1L of oil every 1000km. Stock from air silencer, paper air filter, 4 catalytics and the ugly and quiet Ford mufflers. It was5 spd with the stock shifter that everyone is soquick toswap out. A set of 3.08 and a trac loc so worn it acted like an open. 13.9 @ 99. Slower than my present nice shiney lowered 5oh but the rusted 88 truely impressed me.
i have a hard time beliving that a bone stock even air silencer running 13.9 @ 99...

i agree. my car is basically stock except full exhaust and 3.73s w/ no air silencer and the best i could get was a 14.1 @96mph on street tires at 25psi w/ little to no wheel spin and a 60' of 1.9 at about 65-70 degrees at a reletavily low elevation

Some agree, some don't. Me, I"m only posting what I've witnessed and timeslips to prove it.

If ANYONE lives in the Southern Ontario area. I know where the car is right now. A friend bought it for parts and it's rusting away in his yard. We can go there look over the car. Computer, air filter, smog pump whatever. I'm sure the timeslips are still in the ashtray.

Another speed/density car I know of, but don't have the slips to prove. About 18 years ago my friend bought an 88 GT. No options, not even 3.08's. It went 14.2@99. We beat many other Mustangs on the street with that car, even some that had minor bolt ons.

nacanitihs 08-24-2007 05:19 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
hmm well 18 years ago it was basically brand new so ya it should be a little faster

gearbanger 08-24-2007 05:22 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
sonds like you get a hold of the factory freaks..

jthorn9 08-24-2007 05:40 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
Technically the fastest stock 5.0s are the 94-95 SVO GT-40s, but since they're fairly rare, good luck on finding one. Essentially they're a GT that's been modified with Cobra parts. SVO, in competition with SVT took the SVT based intake used on the Cobra, striped off the Cobra plate and ingraved SVO into the manifold, but the big changes came elsewhere. SVO used the "new at the time" aluminum GT-40 heads, bumped up to a B-303 cam, and added in a 3.23 or 3.55 rear gear option. These GT-40 Mustangs were rated at 290 bhp and were capable of running 13s all day.

Like I said, they're fairly rare and I only recently learned about them in one of my books about the history of the Mustang. Since (I think) the body looks like a normal GT the only way to tell if it's a true GT-40 is to look at the upper intake manifold and heads. If the heads are aluminum and the upper intake manifold looks like a Cobra intake manfiold with the Cobra plate removed, then it's highly likely it's a GT-40.

tinman 08-24-2007 05:46 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
Then there is an 'stock' ('87 I think) that can run 10.70's at about 120..........
NHRA F/SIA.........
One of the writers from Mustang & Fast Fords magizine has it. There have been 2-3 stories about it in the last year in the book........

jthorn9 08-24-2007 05:48 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
Yea, there were a lot of very individual and rare special mustangs in the mid 80s, but I'm talking mass produced by the factory itself because if we go that route, then we could consider everything from Saleen, and Roush, to the Shinoda and SteedaMustang.

nitrous_bob 08-24-2007 06:39 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 
from having 5 of them.....i would say an '87-'89 notch 5-speed

my '89 notch is way faster than my current '93,
my '89 went 13.20's w/ exhaust , 4.10 and tires
my '93 is only breaking into 13's the same way
my '88 was 100% bone stock, 2.73 and street tires and it went 14.20's , also a 5 speed notch

i have not seen '93 cobra's ever run a decent time stock, not ever, my '90 GT w/ an aod used to beat them w/ just a shift kit, and 3.73's , it went 14.40's

Jfsram 08-25-2007 05:45 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 

my '88 was 100% bone stock, 2.73 and street tires and it went 14.20's , also a 5 speed notch
This supports my claims. An 88 which makes it a speed/density car, like my 88. The only difference is mine was a hatch and it had 3.08's.

So why would 3 tenths be so unbelievable?

Even though many prefer a notch over a hatch. On a regular all season radial. I can see the hatch being an advantage since the extra weight on the rear will allow you to be a little more aggressive off the line.

OnyxCobra 08-25-2007 05:54 PM

RE: fastest stock 5.0
 

ORIGINAL: jthorn9

Technically the fastest stock 5.0s are the 94-95 SVO GT-40s, but since they're fairly rare, good luck on finding one. Essentially they're a GT that's been modified with Cobra parts. SVO, in competition with SVT took the SVT based intake used on the Cobra, striped off the Cobra plate and ingraved SVO into the manifold, but the big changes came elsewhere. SVO used the "new at the time" aluminum GT-40 heads, bumped up to a B-303 cam, and added in a 3.23 or 3.55 rear gear option. These GT-40 Mustangs were rated at 290 bhp and were capable of running 13s all day.

Like I said, they're fairly rare and I only recently learned about them in one of my books about the history of the Mustang. Since (I think) the body looks like a normal GT the only way to tell if it's a true GT-40 is to look at the upper intake manifold and heads. If the heads are aluminum and the upper intake manifold looks like a Cobra intake manfiold with the Cobra plate removed, then it's highly likely it's a GT-40.
could you post some info on this, please.


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