331 or 408
#12
RE: 331 or 408
look at the rod ratio of a stock chev 445 big block then come and talk to be about rod ratio, a 347 or 427 stroker kit has a lower rod ratio then that engine and you cant get that chev enginge to break if maintained..... its ALL in balancing, clearences, and assembly.
#14
RE: 331 or 408
anthros i think you meant 454, and you can believe they werent balanced worth a **** (like all motors from ford, dodge, chevy from "back in the day"). they werent high revving motors, they were made for bottom end grunt. plus, being a big block everything is thicker and can handle the extra stress.
its the same reason i would build a 429 before i built a 460. or the same reason a 427 chevy is a better motor than a 454..... the huge stroke motors are excellent for trucks, vans, campers, 4x4s, stump ripping torque - but they are not suited to rev high like the smaller stroke configurations are.
i dunno about you, but i'd rather loose a little on the bottom (in all honesty it makes it easier to hook and book) and be able to bring that sucker up another 1500 rpms or so @ the top where its actually making big power.
so, shifting @ 6800 > shifting @ 5300 (basing this off a 5500 redline)
its the same reason i would build a 429 before i built a 460. or the same reason a 427 chevy is a better motor than a 454..... the huge stroke motors are excellent for trucks, vans, campers, 4x4s, stump ripping torque - but they are not suited to rev high like the smaller stroke configurations are.
i dunno about you, but i'd rather loose a little on the bottom (in all honesty it makes it easier to hook and book) and be able to bring that sucker up another 1500 rpms or so @ the top where its actually making big power.
so, shifting @ 6800 > shifting @ 5300 (basing this off a 5500 redline)
#17
RE: 331 or 408
ORIGINAL: my77stang
maybe you need to proofread that last post, cause i read it like 4 times and couldnt understand what you were trying to say[8D]
maybe you need to proofread that last post, cause i read it like 4 times and couldnt understand what you were trying to say[8D]
ORIGINAL: my77stang
well 408 over 331 is pretty obvious.....
why do i like the strokers that arent so extreme? the rod/stroke ratios and piston speeds are better in the smaller combos IMO, i know the newer 347's have better wrist pin / oil ring locations on the pistons so thats really not an issue.
well 408 over 331 is pretty obvious.....
why do i like the strokers that arent so extreme? the rod/stroke ratios and piston speeds are better in the smaller combos IMO, i know the newer 347's have better wrist pin / oil ring locations on the pistons so thats really not an issue.
ORIGINAL: my77stang
IMO
331 > 347
408 > 427
and of course.....
408 >331
IMO
331 > 347
408 > 427
and of course.....
408 >331
I4 1.9L= 1.49 R:S
I4 Zetec 2.0L = 1.55 R:S
I6 250CID = 1.50 R:S
I6 300CID = 1.56 R:S
331 = 1.66RS
347 = 1.59 R:S
347 = 156 R:S
408 = 1.56 - 1.5 R:S
427 = 1.48 R:S
Why is R:S such an issue for stroker setups, but not for OEM setups that have proven themselves to last 400K+ miles ?
#19
RE: 331 or 408
ORIGINAL: ncplaya88
are stroker kits on a rebuilt motor not as reliable as a stock rebuilt motor? To me it seems the same, both are rebuilt. You can get over 100k miles out of a stroker motor right? whats R:S ?
are stroker kits on a rebuilt motor not as reliable as a stock rebuilt motor? To me it seems the same, both are rebuilt. You can get over 100k miles out of a stroker motor right? whats R:S ?