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Old 11-18-2007, 06:12 PM
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maybe you need to proofread that last post, cause i read it like 4 times and couldnt understand what you were trying to say[8D]
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:12 PM
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look at the rod ratio of a stock chev 445 big block then come and talk to be about rod ratio, a 347 or 427 stroker kit has a lower rod ratio then that engine and you cant get that chev enginge to break if maintained..... its ALL in balancing, clearences, and assembly.
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:35 PM
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This post is mostly about putting in a stroked 302 or stroked 351. The 351 seems to always win tho lol
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:52 PM
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anthros i think you meant 454, and you can believe they werent balanced worth a **** (like all motors from ford, dodge, chevy from "back in the day"). they werent high revving motors, they were made for bottom end grunt. plus, being a big block everything is thicker and can handle the extra stress.

its the same reason i would build a 429 before i built a 460. or the same reason a 427 chevy is a better motor than a 454..... the huge stroke motors are excellent for trucks, vans, campers, 4x4s, stump ripping torque - but they are not suited to rev high like the smaller stroke configurations are.

i dunno about you, but i'd rather loose a little on the bottom (in all honesty it makes it easier to hook and book) and be able to bring that sucker up another 1500 rpms or so @ the top where its actually making big power.

so, shifting @ 6800 > shifting @ 5300 (basing this off a 5500 redline)
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:22 PM
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No replacement for displacement.

But a properly built shortblock can give comparable results if you went big.

Anyone heard of ruger and his Dart block twin turbo project?
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:42 PM
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aode it was just a single turbo and nope but good question. same goes for samseed and iceman
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:09 PM
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maybe you need to proofread that last post, cause i read it like 4 times and couldnt understand what you were trying to say[8D]
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well 408 over 331 is pretty obvious.....

why do i like the strokers that arent so extreme? the rod/stroke ratios and piston speeds are better in the smaller combos IMO, i know the newer 347's have better wrist pin / oil ring locations on the pistons so thats really not an issue.
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IMO

331 > 347

408 > 427

and of course.....

408 >331
Simplified to the mentioned R:S issue =
I4 1.9L= 1.49 R:S
I4 Zetec 2.0L = 1.55 R:S
I6 250CID = 1.50 R:S
I6 300CID = 1.56 R:S

331 = 1.66RS
347 = 1.59 R:S
347 = 156 R:S
408 = 1.56 - 1.5 R:S
427 = 1.48 R:S

Why is R:S such an issue for stroker setups, but not for OEM setups that have proven themselves to last 400K+ miles ?

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Old 11-18-2007, 09:49 PM
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are stroker kits on a rebuilt motor not as reliable as a stock rebuilt motor? To me it seems the same, both are rebuilt. You can get over 100k miles out of a stroker motor right? whats R:S ?
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:36 PM
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are stroker kits on a rebuilt motor not as reliable as a stock rebuilt motor? To me it seems the same, both are rebuilt. You can get over 100k miles out of a stroker motor right? whats R:S ?
If it's a well-built motor they should be just as reliable. R:S is rod to stroke ratio. I'm not sure how it's calculate, but I believe it has something do with how hard the pistons push on the walls of the cylinder. Some believe it will warp a cylinder over time such that it's not completely round after a while running one.
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:38 PM
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Any of them are as reliable as the quality of the parts used, quality of maching, and quality of assembly.
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