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Old 07-09-2008, 09:24 PM
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i got a CEL this morning

codes 33, 44 and 91 i believe

33 EGR not detected, system lean

44 bank 1 system LEAN

91 bank 1 LEAN circuit not switching


Fuel psi is at 39 idle

02's are new

fuel filter is new

think i found my bucking problem... whats next, the pump?

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Old 07-09-2008, 09:31 PM
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do you have an exhaust leak at all on bank one???...if it were lean all the way around both banks would be listed most likely as lean and a fuel pump would affect system as a whole not just one bank.......If it were me I'd back probe the signal wires on the o/2 on bank one with a dvom and see if the o/2 on that bank is switching..also make sure the ground is hooked up to the head
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Old 07-09-2008, 09:35 PM
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which side is bank 1?

i got an exhaust leak somewhere but its after the mufflers

everything smog related has been removed

my drivers tail pipe is cracked in half but i think there may be a leak where the h-pipe bridges
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Old 07-09-2008, 09:40 PM
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bank 1 is on passanger side which = where #1 cyl is....exhaust leak would have to be before o/2 sensor to cause a prob with reading
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Old 07-09-2008, 09:48 PM
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ok.. so would these LEAN codes trigger the EGR to not function?

when i first got the car it had no 02 sensors and there was an EGR code.

i put new 02's in and cleared the EGR code and everythings been great untill today.

kinda weird
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have you deleted or removed your egr???
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the EGR is hooked up
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Old 07-09-2008, 09:59 PM
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I'd make sure that carbon is not holding pintle partially open which will cause a lean condition and make sure the evp sensor is functioning correctly and you can test valve operation by applying vaccum to valve manually and listen for a rough run when applying vaccum....you can also run a koer test with vaccum gauge T'ED in at connection on valve and when egr test is run on the koer test ..you'll see vaccum on the gauge jump briefly....this will indicate evr selonoid is operational..and if valve is fuctioning and not hanging open partially then it may need a evp sensor to fix egr code
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well u just filled my schedule for 2morrow mjr
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In your case..... CEL turning on = code 91 (bank 2 lean, HEGO detected not switching). Code 33 (EGR not opening) will not cause the CEL to turn on, and the EEC has deleted the EGR function automatically. Even though the O2's are brand new, you could have a defective LH sensor.... if the O2 failing was bank 1, the code would be 41. The presence of code 44 in a KOER, and not code 94 = the LH or bank 2 HEGO is not switching to a rich condition the system does to test the thermactor system. If the exhaust system has no leaks, that side O2 could be defective, or a problem in the signal wire could be present (open).
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