O.E.M. Interior Pieces
01-29-2008, 12:18 AM
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RE: O.E.M. Interior Pieces
Cam selection will really be the limiting factor for how well the ECU likes the new setup. My best guess is you will likely have to convert to mass air due to surge/stall issues that will arise. Converting to mass air now will keep you from having to limit your cam selection to speed density friendly pcs. However that's not to say you won't need a chip burnt after the new engine goes in. Aftermarket cams and ford ECU's are not always willing to be buddy buddy at all.
01-29-2008, 12:18 AM
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RE: O.E.M. Interior Pieces
ORIGINAL: JonL_HammerDown
So i dont have to worry about SD or MAF? The Kit will come with everything i need to reuse the pistons?
So i dont have to worry about SD or MAF? The Kit will come with everything i need to reuse the pistons?
01-29-2008, 12:18 AM
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RE: O.E.M. Interior Pieces
ORIGINAL: dman302
By the way.... .040 bore on a 302 is aprox 308 and worth well over 5-8 hp over stock...add some horrible 70's iron heads ported and polished to flow numbers almost, but not quite equal to a set of E7 stock 87-93 heads and you're likely closer too 240 fly wheel HP if you have a relatively decent aftermarket cam (i assume you do since you have 'upgrades'). I'm sorry...don't mean to bust bubbles but you're likely well over 100 HP away from 350. Considering a 125 shot will usually get you at right around 100 HP to the wheels when all is said and done...you very likely only putting down maybe 350 on the sauce. Sorry..not rude just facts. Heads/cam/intake/displacement....basically determine HP output...all the 'other' goodies unless they're boost related really don't mean a damn.
By the way.... .040 bore on a 302 is aprox 308 and worth well over 5-8 hp over stock...add some horrible 70's iron heads ported and polished to flow numbers almost, but not quite equal to a set of E7 stock 87-93 heads and you're likely closer too 240 fly wheel HP if you have a relatively decent aftermarket cam (i assume you do since you have 'upgrades'). I'm sorry...don't mean to bust bubbles but you're likely well over 100 HP away from 350. Considering a 125 shot will usually get you at right around 100 HP to the wheels when all is said and done...you very likely only putting down maybe 350 on the sauce. Sorry..not rude just facts. Heads/cam/intake/displacement....basically determine HP output...all the 'other' goodies unless they're boost related really don't mean a damn.
You kno for not kno all that i have and my craftsmanship on my car you really doo talk alot of s*&t
01-29-2008, 12:23 AM
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RE: O.E.M. Interior Pieces
Cause I am fairly confident about what I'm talking about...spend some time, ask a few questions...you see I'm not that crazy afterall...or am I? As far as craftmanship..I know what you can do with a 302...I know what works....done too much of it not to know what parts do what. I was simply telling you what was what...and I'll bet you my buddy AdderM2K's car (well known member and good buddy) that you wouldn't make over 230 to the wheels on even a dynojet. But again..not personal...just correcting some of the incorrect statements you made previously.
Again...just kidding around.
I hope it does make 350.
Again...just kidding around.
I hope it does make 350.
01-29-2008, 12:30 AM
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RE: O.E.M. Interior Pieces
lol yea i kno guys just would have nothin to do if it wernt for the smack talking lol i seriously do make that much i have other mods to my bud said something about the heads and he helped me to but anyway really wat do you mean by mass air and surge/stall and wat will mass air do for me
01-29-2008, 12:37 AM
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RE: O.E.M. Interior Pieces
SD and MAF are what the measures the air coming into the engine and adds the correct amount of fuel, SD is picky when it comes to cams, MAF allows more radical types of mods, while still being able to handle them to a degree
with certain mods the engine will surge at idle and sometimes stall for no good reason, this is when a custom tuned chip comes in handy(usually people get chips when they go to tune the engine after major mods)
with certain mods the engine will surge at idle and sometimes stall for no good reason, this is when a custom tuned chip comes in handy(usually people get chips when they go to tune the engine after major mods)
01-29-2008, 12:45 AM
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RE: O.E.M. Interior Pieces
Well right now mainly when its cold but almost everytime i start itmy engine will idle 1000 but surge to 1500 and go down to 600 or 700 but not stall is that the SD and how do i go about getting MAF and installing it also a chip? How can i tune this? And wat do you mean by a degree how much will it handle?
01-29-2008, 01:05 AM
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RE: O.E.M. Interior Pieces
when you start it it SHOULD idle abit high, then go down to 600-700, and should stay there, if it keeps going between 600-1200 constently at idle thats surging
read this, has good guides plus on how to convert to MAF
https://mustangforums.com/m_2141191/tm.htm
untill you get some major mods, dont worry about the chip/tune
read this, has good guides plus on how to convert to MAF
https://mustangforums.com/m_2141191/tm.htm
untill you get some major mods, dont worry about the chip/tune