2011 Stang on Motortrend.
03-29-2010, 09:16 PM
#12
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No, lateral means "sideways". You'll need AWD or slicks to lauch anywhere near .94g
What you're looking at is the AVERAGE g-force during the figure-8 run. Trust me, a 1975 Crown Vic would get better skidpad number than what you listed.
I did find something surprising though, V6 does indeed out-handle 5.0:
0.96g skidpad
104 ft 60mph braking
Weird as hell!
What you're looking at is the AVERAGE g-force during the figure-8 run. Trust me, a 1975 Crown Vic would get better skidpad number than what you listed.
I did find something surprising though, V6 does indeed out-handle 5.0:
0.96g skidpad
104 ft 60mph braking
Weird as hell!
the Bugatti Veyron and McLaren F1 are the only two STOCK STREET CARS that I know of that produce more or right near 1 G of forward *launch Acceleration
03-29-2010, 09:24 PM
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1g forward is easy:
1) Get AWD car, like STi
2) Mount a 100lbs flywheel
3) Rev to redline
4) Dump clutch
Now, regarding the handling thing, I can see the V6 out cornering the V8, due to lighter front end. But the 14" Brembo fixed calipers should absolutely murder the V6 sliding calipers in braking.
I'll bet after a couple stops from 100 mph the Brembo equipped 5.0 would really pull ahead (or behind, rather)
1) Get AWD car, like STi
2) Mount a 100lbs flywheel
3) Rev to redline
4) Dump clutch
Now, regarding the handling thing, I can see the V6 out cornering the V8, due to lighter front end. But the 14" Brembo fixed calipers should absolutely murder the V6 sliding calipers in braking.
I'll bet after a couple stops from 100 mph the Brembo equipped 5.0 would really pull ahead (or behind, rather)
03-29-2010, 09:43 PM
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10" rotors on a single piston calipers will stop a car just as effectively as 14" rotors with 4-piston super fancy calipers will. If it locks the wheel up, it locks the wheel up. End of story.
The difference is in two main things - feel and fade. You will get crap feel out of the former setup because the single piston transmits relatively little feeling back to the pedal, and after the first or second panic stop the brakes will be so hot that pushing the pedal essentially does nothing as the pads ride on a thick layer of outgassing against the rotor.
Thus, the Brembo brakes will really shine at the track as they will take a LOT of abuse before beginning to fade, and on the street as brake modulation will be excellent due to the many small pistons and fixed calipers. But they won't stop any faster. That is completely dependent on tire contact area and softness, and suspension geometry (anti-dive characteristics).
The difference is in two main things - feel and fade. You will get crap feel out of the former setup because the single piston transmits relatively little feeling back to the pedal, and after the first or second panic stop the brakes will be so hot that pushing the pedal essentially does nothing as the pads ride on a thick layer of outgassing against the rotor.
Thus, the Brembo brakes will really shine at the track as they will take a LOT of abuse before beginning to fade, and on the street as brake modulation will be excellent due to the many small pistons and fixed calipers. But they won't stop any faster. That is completely dependent on tire contact area and softness, and suspension geometry (anti-dive characteristics).
03-29-2010, 09:46 PM
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Edit (cos I've post-spammed enough already): The Hennessey CTS-V does 1G forward as well. I recall a somewhat humorous video of OnStar calling the driver immediately after its 1G+ drag pull asking him if he'd been in an accident!
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03-30-2010, 02:04 AM
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10" rotors on a single piston calipers will stop a car just as effectively as 14" rotors with 4-piston super fancy calipers will. If it locks the wheel up, it locks the wheel up. End of story.
The difference is in two main things - feel and fade. You will get crap feel out of the former setup because the single piston transmits relatively little feeling back to the pedal, and after the first or second panic stop the brakes will be so hot that pushing the pedal essentially does nothing as the pads ride on a thick layer of outgassing against the rotor.
The difference is in two main things - feel and fade. You will get crap feel out of the former setup because the single piston transmits relatively little feeling back to the pedal, and after the first or second panic stop the brakes will be so hot that pushing the pedal essentially does nothing as the pads ride on a thick layer of outgassing against the rotor.
I was happy till I realized with normal EE rated pads, that 167' became 210'. Even my FF rated Hawk HPS is no where close to OEM (which were likely GG).
The aggressive pad was to compensate for a flexy caliper. My pedal is spongy as hell, even with a master cylinder brace. At this point I would give anything to feel a nice firm pedal. To a degree, fade can always be resisted by using 1600F+ race pads, but it still won't give a proper pedal feel.
For the above reason, I would order the new GT for the Brembo package alone (once I save up enough $ that is).