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Old Aug 4, 2011 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by vaporsilver
Hi All. I ordered and am awaiting my 2012 Black GT. My dealer will be installing the Ford Racing power upgrade pack. Just really curious on this issue...since a much larger number of 5.0s get put in F150s, are they reporting #8 failures?

Don't worry about it these are like 4 cases that gets blown on forums and word of mouth...
Old Aug 4, 2011 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CubanoGT
Don't worry about it these are like 4 cases that gets blown on forums and word of mouth...
What gets me is that it has been the same piston from diff tunes....???
Old Aug 4, 2011 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CubanoGT
Don't worry about it these are like 4 cases that gets blown on forums and word of mouth...
You're about half right.
Old Aug 4, 2011 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CubanoGT
Seriously California is hell for car enthusiasts
Funny thing is, I had to get an emissions test every two years in CA. Here in GA, it is needed EVERY year.
Old Aug 4, 2011 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gothand
Funny thing is, I had to get an emissions test every two years in CA. Here in GA, it is needed EVERY year.
But don't they actually test the exhaust gasses in CA? I doubt I would have passed that test. Heck, you can't have LT's in CA.
Old Aug 5, 2011 | 12:51 AM
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There's no legal aftermarket intake for our cars in Cali LOL..
Old Aug 5, 2011 | 12:15 PM
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I think we are up to 7 or 8 reported cases, but most of them are 2nd hand info. I think most of the cases are people running 93 octane tunes and someone put 87 in their tanks. BAMA seems pretty confident that their tunes will have 0 issues though.
Old Aug 5, 2011 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by vaporsilver
Hi All. I ordered and am awaiting my 2012 Black GT. My dealer will be installing the Ford Racing power upgrade pack. Just really curious on this issue...since a much larger number of 5.0s get put in F150s, are they reporting #8 failures?
I have not heard of any F150 trucks having their Coyotes blow #8. But their Coyotes are de-tuned with a smaller lift and duration cam profiles and log-exhaust manifolds in place of headers. For one to put an F150 Coyote to the level of cylinder pressures, heat, RPM, etc., you would have to slap in cams and retune.

A completely stock F150 Coyote? I have yet to hear even a rumor of one blowing #8.
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mishri
There is a report that someone with an FRPP warrantied cai+tuner also had the #8 failure, although i haven't seen a post directly from that person. so take it for what thats worth.

but if that is true that further shows that it could be a defect, and not just what they think the factory engine can handle..

and again, there are people running mid 10's with over 600whp w/o any problems so it's not like the pistons are known as a weak link. the Boss pistons are virtually the same, which is the part that is breaking, i forgot what part about the psiton is different, but it isn't hte part that is breaking.

The 2011+ are vastly superior, this is only an issue experienced by a tiny minority. I had a 2007, the upgrade is huge. with bolt ons you are as fast as a supercharged 2005-2010, a 2011 with f/i it takes a built engine/tranny to keep up, and a big blower.

From Edmund's first look:
As with the old Boss 302 the decision was made to concentrate on high-rpm power production by optimizing engine respiration. To that end a new set of cylinder heads was developed with CNC-machined ports that allow better breathing at high rpm. More aggressive camshafts were also fitted to take advantage of the increased air flow. The valvetrain components were lightened to better survive those higher engine speeds and new sodium-filled exhaust valves dissipate heat more effectively. New forged aluminum pistons and sinter-forged steel connecting rods were also added to solidify this 302's bottom end.
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 12:01 AM
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Mishri the BOSS pistons are much stronger...



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