2012 Brembo Brake Package?
08-06-2012, 10:27 AM
#12
3rd Gear Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Oldham County, Kentucky
Posts: 540
1) How noticeable is the improved handling...how would you rate it?
Handling is bouncy and improved but still sucks compared to my mods (steeda sport springs and koni STR.T struts/shocks).
2) How does this suspension handle during everyday driving?
Just fine unless you encounter lots of potholes.
3) Do you feel it was worth the extra $$ for the option?
Yep, I got it mostly for the wheels/brakes. The other "upgrades" will all be swapped out eventually on mine cuz they sorta suck, just like the base GT setup.
4) Any other comments?
I don't even notice other stangs anymore unless they are Brembo, GT500, Roush or heavily modded. The rest just blend in and don't stand out IMO. The Brembo package is a good start if you want your car to be noticed and stand out a little.
Handling is bouncy and improved but still sucks compared to my mods (steeda sport springs and koni STR.T struts/shocks).
2) How does this suspension handle during everyday driving?
Just fine unless you encounter lots of potholes.
3) Do you feel it was worth the extra $$ for the option?
Yep, I got it mostly for the wheels/brakes. The other "upgrades" will all be swapped out eventually on mine cuz they sorta suck, just like the base GT setup.
4) Any other comments?
I don't even notice other stangs anymore unless they are Brembo, GT500, Roush or heavily modded. The rest just blend in and don't stand out IMO. The Brembo package is a good start if you want your car to be noticed and stand out a little.
08-08-2012, 12:08 PM
#13
2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: TX
Posts: 220
1. GREAT
2.GREAT NO ISSUES. I changed the Springs to STEEDA Sports and KONI STRT SHOCKS. For better handling. Much better, and I was tired of feeling the up and down on the road, kind of riding a horse. Problem solved.
3.NO
4.YOU CAN GET SOMETHING SIMILLAR IN THE AFTERMARKET, AND YOU WILL CHOSE IT (TIRES, WHEELS, MAYBE SOME BETTER SUSPENSION FROM STRANO
STILL IS A GREAT CAR!!!!
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2.GREAT NO ISSUES. I changed the Springs to STEEDA Sports and KONI STRT SHOCKS. For better handling. Much better, and I was tired of feeling the up and down on the road, kind of riding a horse. Problem solved.
3.NO
4.YOU CAN GET SOMETHING SIMILLAR IN THE AFTERMARKET, AND YOU WILL CHOSE IT (TIRES, WHEELS, MAYBE SOME BETTER SUSPENSION FROM STRANO
STILL IS A GREAT CAR!!!!
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08-08-2012, 03:13 PM
#14
3rd Gear Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Arizona
Posts: 598
Completely worth the money. This is my 4th Mustang and on my 07 GT I spent $1000 putting the Brembo's up front. That didn't give me the unique engine tuning, larger sway bars, and tighter shocks/struts and springs.
Even without the Brembos in back, our cars are the lightest of the muscle, and have the best braking distance from 60mph over others with 4 wheel Brembos (Camaro, Challenger, Charger).
Even without the Brembos in back, our cars are the lightest of the muscle, and have the best braking distance from 60mph over others with 4 wheel Brembos (Camaro, Challenger, Charger).
08-08-2012, 03:13 PM
#15
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Arizona
Posts: 598
08-08-2012, 08:14 PM
#16
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: MA
Posts: 36
Definitely some good information that has helped me out a lot. I now have a couple more specific questions regarding the package?
1) What does the Unique Electronic Stability Control Tuning actually entail? What is actually tuned?
2) What does the Unique Sport Steering Control Setting do? How are the settings different?
If anyone can explain these two in more detail that would be great. Thanks.
1) What does the Unique Electronic Stability Control Tuning actually entail? What is actually tuned?
2) What does the Unique Sport Steering Control Setting do? How are the settings different?
If anyone can explain these two in more detail that would be great. Thanks.
08-08-2012, 08:30 PM
#18
5th Gear Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: GA
Posts: 3,015
The AdvanceTrac system automatically enables each time the engine is
started. All features of the AdvanceTrac system (TCS and ESC) are
active and monitor the vehicle from start-up. However, the system will
only intervene if the driving situation requires it.
Driving
211
2012 05+ Mustang (197)
Owners Guide, 1st Printing
USA (fus)The AdvanceTrac system includes
a stability control button located on
the center console, a stability
control light and a stability control
off light in the instrument cluster.
Both the stability control light and the stability control off light in the
instrument cluster will illuminate temporarily during start-up as part of a
normal system self-check. The stability control light may illuminate
(flash) during certain driving situations which cause the AdvanceTrac
system to operate. If the stability control light and the stability control
off light illuminate steadily, contact your authorized dealer as soon as
possible to have the system serviced immediately. If equipped with a
message center, the vehicle will also indicate a failure with the
AdvanceTrac system.
When AdvanceTrac performs a normal system self-check, some drivers
may notice a slight movement of the brake, and/or a rumble, grunting, or
grinding noise after startup and when driving off.
When an event occurs that activates AdvanceTrac you may experience
the following:
• A slight deceleration of the vehicle
• The stability control light will flash.
• A vibration in the pedal when your foot is on the brake pedal
• If the driving condition is severe and your foot is not on the brake, the
brake pedal may move as the systems applies higher brake forces. You
may also hear a whoosh of air from under the instrument panel during
this severe condition.
• The brake pedal may feel stiffer than usual.
Traction control system (TCS)
Traction control is a driver aid feature that helps your vehicle maintain
traction of the wheels, typically when driving on slippery and/or hilly
road surfaces, by detecting and controlling wheel spin.
Excessive wheel spin is controlled in two ways, which may work
separately or in tandem, engine traction control and brake traction
control. Engine traction control works to limit drive-wheel spin by
momentarily reducing engine power. Brake traction control works to limit
wheel spin by momentarily applying the brakes to the wheel that is
slipping. Traction control is most active at low speeds.
During TCS events, the stability control light in the instrument cluster
will flash.
Driving
212
2012 05+ Mustang (197)
Owners Guide, 1st Printing
USA (fus)If the TCS is activated excessively in a short period of time, the braking
portion of the system may become temporarily disabled to allow the
brakes to cool down. In this situation, the TCS will use only engine
power reduction or transfer to help control the wheels from
over-spinning. When the brakes have cooled down, the system will regain
all features. Anti-lock braking, and ESC are not affected by this condition
and will continue to function during the cool-down period.
The engine traction control and brake traction control system may be
deactivated in certain situations. See the Switching off AdvanceTrac
section below.
If you should become stuck in snow or ice or on a very slippery road
surface, try switching the TCS off. This may allow excess wheel spin to
“dig” the vehicle out and enable a successful “rocking” maneuver.
Electronic stability control (ESC)
Electronic stability control (ESC) may enhance your vehicle’s directional
stability during adverse maneuvers, for example when cornering severely
or avoiding objects in the roadway. ESC operates by applying brakes to
one or more of the wheels individually and, if necessary, reducing engine
power if the system detects that the vehicle is about to skid or slide
laterally.
During ESC events, the stability control light in the instrument cluster
will flash.
Certain adverse driving maneuvers may activate the ESC system, which
include but are not limited to:
• Taking a turn too fast
• Maneuvering quickly to avoid an accident, pedestrian or obstacle
• Driving over a patch of ice or other slippery surfaces
• Changing lanes on a snow-rutted road
• Entering a snow-free road from a snow-covered side street, or vice
versa
• Entering a paved road from a gravel road, or vice versa
• Cornering while towing a heavily loaded trailer (refer to Trailer
towing in the Tires, Wheels and Loading chapter).
Switching off AdvanceTrac
If the vehicle is stuck in snow, mud or sand, and seems to lose engine
power, switching off certain features of the AdvanceTrac system may be
beneficial because the wheels are allowed to spin. This will restore full
engine power and will enhance momentum through the obstacle.
Driving
213
2012 05+ Mustang (197)
Owners Guide, 1st Printing
USA (fus)The stability control button can be
used to enable unique
AdvanceTrac modes.
Full features of the AdvanceTrac
system can be restored by pressing the stability control button again or
by turning off and restarting the engine.
When features of the AdvanceTrac
system are off, the stability control
off light will illuminate steadily.
Pressing the stability control button
again will turn off the stability
control off light.
In R (Reverse), ABS and the engine traction control and brake traction
control features will continue to function; however, ESC is disabled.
AdvanceTrac Features
2012 05+ Mustang (197)
Owners Guide, 1st Printing
USA (fus)AdvanceTrac Sport Mode (if equipped)
The AdvanceTrac system provides an available sport mode on some
models. This can be selected utilizing the stability off button as shown in
the table above.
Sport mode is not intended for use on public roadways as this mode
provides less AdvanceTrac system intervention than when the default
ESC and traction control systems are on. Sport mode will allow more
spirited driving while the AdvanceTrac system is still enabled.
STEERING
Your vehicle is equipped with an electric power-assisted steering (EPAS)
system. There is no fluid reservoir to check or fill.
If your vehicle loses electrical power while you are driving (or if the
ignition is turned off), you can steer the vehicle manually, but it takes
more effort. Under extreme usage conditions, the steering effort may
increase. This occurs to prevent overheating and permanent damage to
your steering system. If this should occur, you will neither lose the ability
to steer the vehicle manually nor will it cause permanent damage.
Typical steering and driving maneuvers will allow the system to cool and
steering assist will return to normal.
If the steering wanders or pulls, check for:
• an improperly inflated tire.
• uneven tire wear.
• loose or worn suspension components.
• loose or worn steering components.
• improper steering alignment.
A high crown in the road or high crosswinds may also make the steering
seem to wander/pull.
Selectable steering
You can select the desired steering feel through the message center. The
settings are:
• Standard: Default factory setting.
• Sport: Slightly higher effort required for steering with more road force
felt through the steering wheel.
• Comfort: Slightly less effort required for steering with less road force
felt through the steering wheel.
After selecting the desired setting, you may feel a soft feedback bump in
the steering wheel when the changeover occurs.
Driving
215
2012 05+ Mustang (197)
Owners Guide, 1st Printing
USA (fus)Note: If the battery is disconnected or removed, the steering setting will
default to standard.
Refer to Message center in the Instrument Cluster chapter.
started. All features of the AdvanceTrac system (TCS and ESC) are
active and monitor the vehicle from start-up. However, the system will
only intervene if the driving situation requires it.
Driving
211
2012 05+ Mustang (197)
Owners Guide, 1st Printing
USA (fus)The AdvanceTrac system includes
a stability control button located on
the center console, a stability
control light and a stability control
off light in the instrument cluster.
Both the stability control light and the stability control off light in the
instrument cluster will illuminate temporarily during start-up as part of a
normal system self-check. The stability control light may illuminate
(flash) during certain driving situations which cause the AdvanceTrac
system to operate. If the stability control light and the stability control
off light illuminate steadily, contact your authorized dealer as soon as
possible to have the system serviced immediately. If equipped with a
message center, the vehicle will also indicate a failure with the
AdvanceTrac system.
When AdvanceTrac performs a normal system self-check, some drivers
may notice a slight movement of the brake, and/or a rumble, grunting, or
grinding noise after startup and when driving off.
When an event occurs that activates AdvanceTrac you may experience
the following:
• A slight deceleration of the vehicle
• The stability control light will flash.
• A vibration in the pedal when your foot is on the brake pedal
• If the driving condition is severe and your foot is not on the brake, the
brake pedal may move as the systems applies higher brake forces. You
may also hear a whoosh of air from under the instrument panel during
this severe condition.
• The brake pedal may feel stiffer than usual.
Traction control system (TCS)
Traction control is a driver aid feature that helps your vehicle maintain
traction of the wheels, typically when driving on slippery and/or hilly
road surfaces, by detecting and controlling wheel spin.
Excessive wheel spin is controlled in two ways, which may work
separately or in tandem, engine traction control and brake traction
control. Engine traction control works to limit drive-wheel spin by
momentarily reducing engine power. Brake traction control works to limit
wheel spin by momentarily applying the brakes to the wheel that is
slipping. Traction control is most active at low speeds.
During TCS events, the stability control light in the instrument cluster
will flash.
Driving
212
2012 05+ Mustang (197)
Owners Guide, 1st Printing
USA (fus)If the TCS is activated excessively in a short period of time, the braking
portion of the system may become temporarily disabled to allow the
brakes to cool down. In this situation, the TCS will use only engine
power reduction or transfer to help control the wheels from
over-spinning. When the brakes have cooled down, the system will regain
all features. Anti-lock braking, and ESC are not affected by this condition
and will continue to function during the cool-down period.
The engine traction control and brake traction control system may be
deactivated in certain situations. See the Switching off AdvanceTrac
section below.
If you should become stuck in snow or ice or on a very slippery road
surface, try switching the TCS off. This may allow excess wheel spin to
“dig” the vehicle out and enable a successful “rocking” maneuver.
Electronic stability control (ESC)
Electronic stability control (ESC) may enhance your vehicle’s directional
stability during adverse maneuvers, for example when cornering severely
or avoiding objects in the roadway. ESC operates by applying brakes to
one or more of the wheels individually and, if necessary, reducing engine
power if the system detects that the vehicle is about to skid or slide
laterally.
During ESC events, the stability control light in the instrument cluster
will flash.
Certain adverse driving maneuvers may activate the ESC system, which
include but are not limited to:
• Taking a turn too fast
• Maneuvering quickly to avoid an accident, pedestrian or obstacle
• Driving over a patch of ice or other slippery surfaces
• Changing lanes on a snow-rutted road
• Entering a snow-free road from a snow-covered side street, or vice
versa
• Entering a paved road from a gravel road, or vice versa
• Cornering while towing a heavily loaded trailer (refer to Trailer
towing in the Tires, Wheels and Loading chapter).
Switching off AdvanceTrac
If the vehicle is stuck in snow, mud or sand, and seems to lose engine
power, switching off certain features of the AdvanceTrac system may be
beneficial because the wheels are allowed to spin. This will restore full
engine power and will enhance momentum through the obstacle.
Driving
213
2012 05+ Mustang (197)
Owners Guide, 1st Printing
USA (fus)The stability control button can be
used to enable unique
AdvanceTrac modes.
Full features of the AdvanceTrac
system can be restored by pressing the stability control button again or
by turning off and restarting the engine.
When features of the AdvanceTrac
system are off, the stability control
off light will illuminate steadily.
Pressing the stability control button
again will turn off the stability
control off light.
In R (Reverse), ABS and the engine traction control and brake traction
control features will continue to function; however, ESC is disabled.
AdvanceTrac Features
2012 05+ Mustang (197)
Owners Guide, 1st Printing
USA (fus)AdvanceTrac Sport Mode (if equipped)
The AdvanceTrac system provides an available sport mode on some
models. This can be selected utilizing the stability off button as shown in
the table above.
Sport mode is not intended for use on public roadways as this mode
provides less AdvanceTrac system intervention than when the default
ESC and traction control systems are on. Sport mode will allow more
spirited driving while the AdvanceTrac system is still enabled.
STEERING
Your vehicle is equipped with an electric power-assisted steering (EPAS)
system. There is no fluid reservoir to check or fill.
If your vehicle loses electrical power while you are driving (or if the
ignition is turned off), you can steer the vehicle manually, but it takes
more effort. Under extreme usage conditions, the steering effort may
increase. This occurs to prevent overheating and permanent damage to
your steering system. If this should occur, you will neither lose the ability
to steer the vehicle manually nor will it cause permanent damage.
Typical steering and driving maneuvers will allow the system to cool and
steering assist will return to normal.
If the steering wanders or pulls, check for:
• an improperly inflated tire.
• uneven tire wear.
• loose or worn suspension components.
• loose or worn steering components.
• improper steering alignment.
A high crown in the road or high crosswinds may also make the steering
seem to wander/pull.
Selectable steering
You can select the desired steering feel through the message center. The
settings are:
• Standard: Default factory setting.
• Sport: Slightly higher effort required for steering with more road force
felt through the steering wheel.
• Comfort: Slightly less effort required for steering with less road force
felt through the steering wheel.
After selecting the desired setting, you may feel a soft feedback bump in
the steering wheel when the changeover occurs.
Driving
215
2012 05+ Mustang (197)
Owners Guide, 1st Printing
USA (fus)Note: If the battery is disconnected or removed, the steering setting will
default to standard.
Refer to Message center in the Instrument Cluster chapter.
08-08-2012, 09:10 PM
#20
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: MA
Posts: 36
1) So, is the AdvanceTrac System the same thing as the "Unique Electronic Stability Control Tuning" that is featured in the Brembo Brake Package?
2) The Sport Mode button explanation was helpful. Do you find that to be a worthy option? Does it improve the performance/handling when doing some sporty driving (windy roads/track driving)?
2) The Sport Mode button explanation was helpful. Do you find that to be a worthy option? Does it improve the performance/handling when doing some sporty driving (windy roads/track driving)?