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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 06:37 AM
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OP. Did you ever get your issues sorted out? Guess you found out the hard way that you need a tune to run an off road pipe. There have been issues of bad pump gas going around also.

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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Deranged2013
OP. Did you ever get your issues sorted out? Guess you found out the hard way that you need a tune to run an off road pipe. There have been issues of bad pump gas going around also.
Why is it you must have a specific tune to run an O/R midpipe. I am not challenging your statement saying one DOESN'T need one. I am stating you won't see the appropriate gains. It shouldn't hurt to run without a tune but that Is how I feel and probably am wrong, just want the science to back it up please.

Don't mean to be disrepsectful if I was, really appreciate any insight you can give me!!!
Old Jul 6, 2013 | 11:56 PM
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Oh and yes, OP any update?!
Old Jul 7, 2013 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Slowbra302
Why is it you must have a specific tune to run an O/R midpipe. I am not challenging your statement saying one DOESN'T need one. I am stating you won't see the appropriate gains. It shouldn't hurt to run without a tune but that Is how I feel and probably am wrong, just want the science to back it up please.

Don't mean to be disrepsectful if I was, really appreciate any insight you can give me!!!
I'm sure you will see gains and the car will run, with a CEL on of course and ****ty surging idle. I would worry about running to rich and even more worried about running lean, which is the reason for the blown #8 issues. With a tune you can shut off the rear O2 sensors and stabilize the proper A/F ratios and fuel trims. Point is, If you are going to mod your car, make sure it is tuned properly for the mod installed.
Old Jul 7, 2013 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Slowbra302
Why is it you must have a specific tune to run an O/R midpipe. I am not challenging your statement saying one DOESN'T need one. I am stating you won't see the appropriate gains. It shouldn't hurt to run without a tune but that Is how I feel and probably am wrong, just want the science to back it up please.

Don't mean to be disrepsectful if I was, really appreciate any insight you can give me!!!
Because 2011+ cars have a new feature called Cat Overtemp Protection that must be addressed with a tune or the car will continue to dump fuel to cool the cats which are no longer present.
Old Jul 10, 2013 | 09:45 AM
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Ahhhhhh okay. It all makes sense! I appreciate all the feedback! Now just to see what is going on with OP.
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