Replacing head unit, adding sub/amp
This is a bit long and complicated so I apologize for my inability to explain myself concisely.
I'm getting Pioneer AVH-P3100DVD for cheap and wish to install it into my 2006 V6 Mustang to replace the Shaker 500 head unit (crutchfield said I could! with a PAC Radio Replacement Interface)
I'm on a low budget so I figured I'd get this cheap and install it myself since the local place said it would be an 800$ job. No. Just no. So I need to know if I'm doing the correctly before I invest money and time into it.
I'm somewhat noobish to car audio, installed a sub/amp combo in my old car with little problems after following guides online. Plan to do the same here, although I understand it will be a bit more complicated.
The complicated part is that I also wish to add a sub(RF 400watt ), amp(I think this RF 600watt), with custom built box into my trunk. Now I've put off adding this into my car for a while after reading how complicated it is to add a trunk-sub+amp while still letting my factory 8" subs work in my side door off of the two factory amps. I am perfectly happy with the Shaker system as is and figured I would wait to perform that complicated install when I replaced the head unit.
Ultimate goal: Pioneer dvd head unit, working factory speakers and door subs, added sub/amp for extra bass in the trunk. All sounding good, synced, and properly powered.
I'm going by this (http://savkomedia.com/kevin/Index4.asp) guide.
So I think this is what I need to buy???: 4 gauge wiring kit, The Soundgate LOCB.2, PAC Radio Replacement Interface, and maybe a 12v trigger and capacitor?
Steps:
1. Take out Shaker 500 Head Unit.
2. Install Pioneer Head Unit with PAC Radio Replacement
3. Follow instructions on savkomedia.com on how to connect another amp through the current pre-amps(using LOCB.2) and wiring through firewall for power.
Questions:
The guide recommends a capacitor (farad digital stiffening cap). I've heard mixed thoughts on capacitors and its necessity. Do I really need one? Is it worth it?
The guide recommends a 12v toggle switch to turn off the system when not in use. He states the car battery will drain. My previous sub/amp install did not require a trigger and did not sap power. Would this be due to the capacitor? I'm just wondering if I really need to complicate this project more with such an item.
Does changing the head unit effect the shaker 500 amps powering the 8" door subs? I like to think that the PAC radio replacement thing will just switch out the head units without effecting the side-subs and the wiring therein, but I might just be optimistic...?
So let me have it. Will this even sound good? Does my wish for a touch-screen DVD player with a bit more bass in the trunk and still-working subs in the door seem realistic? Or am I insanely naive in the car audio department?
I'm getting Pioneer AVH-P3100DVD for cheap and wish to install it into my 2006 V6 Mustang to replace the Shaker 500 head unit (crutchfield said I could! with a PAC Radio Replacement Interface)
I'm on a low budget so I figured I'd get this cheap and install it myself since the local place said it would be an 800$ job. No. Just no. So I need to know if I'm doing the correctly before I invest money and time into it.
I'm somewhat noobish to car audio, installed a sub/amp combo in my old car with little problems after following guides online. Plan to do the same here, although I understand it will be a bit more complicated.
The complicated part is that I also wish to add a sub(RF 400watt ), amp(I think this RF 600watt), with custom built box into my trunk. Now I've put off adding this into my car for a while after reading how complicated it is to add a trunk-sub+amp while still letting my factory 8" subs work in my side door off of the two factory amps. I am perfectly happy with the Shaker system as is and figured I would wait to perform that complicated install when I replaced the head unit.
Ultimate goal: Pioneer dvd head unit, working factory speakers and door subs, added sub/amp for extra bass in the trunk. All sounding good, synced, and properly powered.
I'm going by this (http://savkomedia.com/kevin/Index4.asp) guide.
So I think this is what I need to buy???: 4 gauge wiring kit, The Soundgate LOCB.2, PAC Radio Replacement Interface, and maybe a 12v trigger and capacitor?
Steps:
1. Take out Shaker 500 Head Unit.
2. Install Pioneer Head Unit with PAC Radio Replacement
3. Follow instructions on savkomedia.com on how to connect another amp through the current pre-amps(using LOCB.2) and wiring through firewall for power.
Questions:
The guide recommends a capacitor (farad digital stiffening cap). I've heard mixed thoughts on capacitors and its necessity. Do I really need one? Is it worth it?
The guide recommends a 12v toggle switch to turn off the system when not in use. He states the car battery will drain. My previous sub/amp install did not require a trigger and did not sap power. Would this be due to the capacitor? I'm just wondering if I really need to complicate this project more with such an item.
Does changing the head unit effect the shaker 500 amps powering the 8" door subs? I like to think that the PAC radio replacement thing will just switch out the head units without effecting the side-subs and the wiring therein, but I might just be optimistic...?
So let me have it. Will this even sound good? Does my wish for a touch-screen DVD player with a bit more bass in the trunk and still-working subs in the door seem realistic? Or am I insanely naive in the car audio department?
Last edited by Beksinski; Mar 31, 2009 at 03:40 PM.
Can he get power from the in-console 12v lighter or does he need to go straight from battery? Does it depend on the amps needed?
Also, if the new stereo has pre-amps out then a rear amp/speaker is the easy part...
Also, if the new stereo has pre-amps out then a rear amp/speaker is the easy part...
Thanks for the tips, I'm glad it's a bit easier since I'm replacing the headunit.
And would I be able to use the 12v lighter? I imagine that would make things a bit easier instead of having to go through the firewall.
That guide certainly uses a more powerful amp than I'm using..
And would I be able to use the 12v lighter? I imagine that would make things a bit easier instead of having to go through the firewall.
That guide certainly uses a more powerful amp than I'm using..
WHAT? Are you serious?
Like ttocs said TO THE BATTERY AND FUSED! Throught the firewall, not goin throught the door jam. I know you said you were goin throught the firewall but just wanted to reintergate that.
Ha, thanks for the confirmation, it did sound strange.
Does this wiring harness not have a 5v regulator? If not I have no idea what I'm looking for on the metra site. I went by crutchfield recommendation.
Sorry for all the newbie questions, I appreciate no one calling me an idiot yet. \/
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Edit: also reading around this site, I think I found a much cheaper alternative here maybe? Last time I replaced a head unit, there was only one wiring harness to chose from...
Edit2: reading around this site again, I've found you can get a cheap 5v regulator from radio shack for like 2 bucks. Is this what I would need with one of the aforementioned wiring harnesses?
Sorry for all the newbie questions, I appreciate no one calling me an idiot yet. \/
\/Edit: also reading around this site, I think I found a much cheaper alternative here maybe? Last time I replaced a head unit, there was only one wiring harness to chose from...
Edit2: reading around this site again, I've found you can get a cheap 5v regulator from radio shack for like 2 bucks. Is this what I would need with one of the aforementioned wiring harnesses?
Last edited by Beksinski; Apr 3, 2009 at 09:12 AM.
you can use the regulator or a simple resistor on the turn on wire to get the 5v needed but that is all you should need. Harnesses have always had a huge mark up on them even though they only cost a couple of bucks each.
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