Emergency protective coating needed.
I've stripped all the paint off my mustang, done the body work, did a light coat of etching primer on most parts. Then used some skim coatings of body filler and some of the car is covered in spray can (lacquer) sandable primer. The fenders and cowl are bare metal, but I plan to get some etching primer on it in the next couple days.
The problem is that the bank showed up today and nailed a notice on my door, telling me that my landlord (a friend.. not any more, I guess), has been pocketing the rent money instead of paying the note on the house. I had no clue and the notice says it will be sold at auction the 15th of next month. I need to put the car back together quick, so I don't loose it if they decide to lock us out while we try to figure out what to do (or what they are going to do!). 14 years in the same house, no plans on moving for years... Oh BOY!
The sandable primer is a chalky type lacquer and can rub off easily. Is there anything I can do to protect the work I have done? I need to do the work in a couple days time, so the right way is out of the question.
The primer is white and I was thinking maybe giving it a light coat of the same brand of white Lacquer paint from a spray can. It is going to be finished sanded anyhow. So a light coat of spray lacquer paint to keep it all from rubbing off while I move it to a new house or put it in rental storage (with stuff piled on it). Then when I get back to work on it, I can keep going with the wet sanding to remove the lacquer paint and continue as planned. I figured white paint since I plan to paint it yellow, if I miss any paint, it will be the same color as the primer and not affect the finish color.
I really don't want to mess up all the work I have done or expose any raw metal by the primer coming off.. Would this be a good QUICK fix? Or does anyone have any better ideas... I need to do this quick, since I have to get a loot of parts back on in a hurry AND work on getting a place to live, packing and moving... (no money to go expensive or get it painted by a shop.) Fenders are off, glass is out, valances, stone guards lights, all trim...etc.. but the doors, trunk and hood are all on (either primed or not stripped yet) so not all that much to get it together, but the interior is ALL out... Not getting it 100% road worthy, just together and looking like it is together. (not finished condition.. but no parts falling off!)
How about the window and backlight? Will popping it in with the new rubber, no sealer... will they stay in? I would hate to have to go through the stripping mess again... the bays are etching primed and the lacquer primer as well... They should stay put, but not be weather proof?
Any ideas would help.. sorry if this message is unorganized.. my mind is racing as you can imagine. I don't want to loose my car or ANY parts in this nightmare...
Thanks all!
The problem is that the bank showed up today and nailed a notice on my door, telling me that my landlord (a friend.. not any more, I guess), has been pocketing the rent money instead of paying the note on the house. I had no clue and the notice says it will be sold at auction the 15th of next month. I need to put the car back together quick, so I don't loose it if they decide to lock us out while we try to figure out what to do (or what they are going to do!). 14 years in the same house, no plans on moving for years... Oh BOY!
The sandable primer is a chalky type lacquer and can rub off easily. Is there anything I can do to protect the work I have done? I need to do the work in a couple days time, so the right way is out of the question.
The primer is white and I was thinking maybe giving it a light coat of the same brand of white Lacquer paint from a spray can. It is going to be finished sanded anyhow. So a light coat of spray lacquer paint to keep it all from rubbing off while I move it to a new house or put it in rental storage (with stuff piled on it). Then when I get back to work on it, I can keep going with the wet sanding to remove the lacquer paint and continue as planned. I figured white paint since I plan to paint it yellow, if I miss any paint, it will be the same color as the primer and not affect the finish color.
I really don't want to mess up all the work I have done or expose any raw metal by the primer coming off.. Would this be a good QUICK fix? Or does anyone have any better ideas... I need to do this quick, since I have to get a loot of parts back on in a hurry AND work on getting a place to live, packing and moving... (no money to go expensive or get it painted by a shop.) Fenders are off, glass is out, valances, stone guards lights, all trim...etc.. but the doors, trunk and hood are all on (either primed or not stripped yet) so not all that much to get it together, but the interior is ALL out... Not getting it 100% road worthy, just together and looking like it is together. (not finished condition.. but no parts falling off!)
How about the window and backlight? Will popping it in with the new rubber, no sealer... will they stay in? I would hate to have to go through the stripping mess again... the bays are etching primed and the lacquer primer as well... They should stay put, but not be weather proof?
Any ideas would help.. sorry if this message is unorganized.. my mind is racing as you can imagine. I don't want to loose my car or ANY parts in this nightmare...
Thanks all!
If I was doing it I would probably go with a light coat of epoxy etch primer right from the get go. Do it once and do it right.
This will serve as a solid base while affording good protection through storage.
I don't think your idea is "bad", just way less than ideal, and in the scheme of things going straight to etch won't be much harder up front, and once you remove the lacquer and apply the etch primer, it will be way easier and cheaper in the long run.
MODERN Primer is SO much better than lacquer primer that I have a hard time using it ANYWHERE.
The etch primer will protect the steel pretty effectively on it's own.
I know the etch is kind of expenxive, but used sparingly it goes a REALLY long way.
This will serve as a solid base while affording good protection through storage.
I don't think your idea is "bad", just way less than ideal, and in the scheme of things going straight to etch won't be much harder up front, and once you remove the lacquer and apply the etch primer, it will be way easier and cheaper in the long run.
MODERN Primer is SO much better than lacquer primer that I have a hard time using it ANYWHERE.
The etch primer will protect the steel pretty effectively on it's own.
I know the etch is kind of expenxive, but used sparingly it goes a REALLY long way.
Last edited by JMD; Mar 22, 2010 at 09:06 PM.
I grabbed some "primer/sealer", the same lacquer based brand I have been using, although it is light gray. I think I will spray it over the chalky sanding primer to protect the work I have already done and then be able to go back to the white primer when I have a new place.
Time is at a minimum. Found out they are auctioning the house the 15th of next month. So I need to get the car movable by then so I don't have to worry about the car and the new owner. Also going to need to start packing 10+ years worth of stuff in that same time frame in case they manage to get us out immediately. (need a house for car tools and parts alone!)
I will look for a place that I can spray anything, but who knows when I will get back to work on it. So I just want the car semi-protected for whatever happens. Lucky I have a wife that sees the car as being a top priority in our move and house hunting as well.
Boy, don't think the housing market can affect you, neither did I... 2 days ago!
first off stop using lacquer...
now with that out of the way you cant spray etch primer over filler because it will not dry properly and can cause problems down the road....
personally id knock off all of the lacquer and spray a coat of epoxy primer on there it is water proof and will protect good till you can get storage again
now with that out of the way you cant spray etch primer over filler because it will not dry properly and can cause problems down the road....
personally id knock off all of the lacquer and spray a coat of epoxy primer on there it is water proof and will protect good till you can get storage again
Wish I could,but they are selling it for the remainder of the bank loan.. $480,000. Not the taxes and will only accept cash or certified bank check. Forclosed not a tax sale. We've been renting for 10 years to pay the full monthly mortgage. Friend just neglected to forward it to the bank for the last 6 months (or to tell us they/we were in trouble of loosing the house)
Etching primer was done on bare/clean/raw metal. After removing 4 layers of previous FULL primer/paint jobs!
As for epoxy I started with that. Houses too close and smell too strong. Not an option right now. That's the way I would have gone too. need to do a quick fix and will hopefully get a place that I can redo with epoxy.
Etching primer was done on bare/clean/raw metal. After removing 4 layers of previous FULL primer/paint jobs!
As for epoxy I started with that. Houses too close and smell too strong. Not an option right now. That's the way I would have gone too. need to do a quick fix and will hopefully get a place that I can redo with epoxy.
Wish I could,but they are selling it for the remainder of the bank loan.. $480,000. Not the taxes and will only accept cash or certified bank check. Forclosed not a tax sale. We've been renting for 10 years to pay the full monthly mortgage. Friend just neglected to forward it to the bank for the last 6 months (or to tell us they/we were in trouble of loosing the house)
Etching primer was done on bare/clean/raw metal. After removing 4 layers of previous FULL primer/paint jobs!
As for epoxy I started with that. Houses too close and smell too strong. Not an option right now. That's the way I would have gone too. need to do a quick fix and will hopefully get a place that I can redo with epoxy.
Etching primer was done on bare/clean/raw metal. After removing 4 layers of previous FULL primer/paint jobs!
As for epoxy I started with that. Houses too close and smell too strong. Not an option right now. That's the way I would have gone too. need to do a quick fix and will hopefully get a place that I can redo with epoxy.
your moving what does it matter if it smells lol not like youll have to deal with any pissed neighbors after the move out date
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