Shelby drop - bad idea...
the reply from john (opentrackerracing):
arthur
The 1" upper arm drop was stoped on the Shelby's in '66 because of cost reasons. They did it to all of the race cars. If the bump stop is in place, the upper arm will hit that before the ball joint comes into bind with the 1" upper arm drop. I have never herd of an issue with a 1" drop. We do it to all of our cars without issue. I know of sereral vintage racers here in the US that use the 1" drop with stock upper ams and have been on the track for 30+ years.
Thinkin' it's now back on my to-do list as well. The front needs to come down a little as well, so hopefully this will do the trick.
Though, I think I'll check everything over by putting a load on the lca when the car is on jacks, to see how everything looks in there and to see suspension travel range before hitting the bump stop. As my daily driver in L.A., I come across speed-bumps often (at a reaonable speed - i.e. not fast), which are my biggest concern with this mod.
Gonna try my hands at the home-alignment soon, so I figure I'll do it all then. Another project for the summer...
Though, I think I'll check everything over by putting a load on the lca when the car is on jacks, to see how everything looks in there and to see suspension travel range before hitting the bump stop. As my daily driver in L.A., I come across speed-bumps often (at a reaonable speed - i.e. not fast), which are my biggest concern with this mod.
Gonna try my hands at the home-alignment soon, so I figure I'll do it all then. Another project for the summer...
ORIGINAL: 6mustang6
i thought Ford already moved the 67 and up's control arms as far as they should be. They stole the idea from Shelby.
i thought Ford already moved the 67 and up's control arms as far as they should be. They stole the idea from Shelby.
I would not recommend you do the 1" drop in this day and age...not with the 15 degree wedge and 1.75" drop that totally eliminates understeer.
ORIGINAL: Aussie66Fastback
I agree with you in principal Mike, but the change you are talking about costs a lot more than the few hours labour to do the original drop!
I agree with you in principal Mike, but the change you are talking about costs a lot more than the few hours labour to do the original drop!
One more thing...if you decide later to go with the 1.75" drop...what do you do with the holes you now have?
1/2 to 1 degree negative camber to get the front tire to spuare-up to the road in corners. This wears your tires out VERY quickly.
My last set of tires still wore out the outsides faster than the insides with -1° negative camber and the 1" upper control arm drop.
ORIGINAL: 2bav8
I must not drive as aggresively as you...
My last set of tires still wore out the outsides faster than the insides with -1° negative camber and the 1" upper control arm drop.
1/2 to 1 degree negative camber to get the front tire to spuare-up to the road in corners. This wears your tires out VERY quickly.
My last set of tires still wore out the outsides faster than the insides with -1° negative camber and the 1" upper control arm drop.
Scott,
I actually happen to have that "set" of upper arms John made
So far (with limited testing), a set of stock V8 coil springs (cut to achieve proper ride height) with the spring perch moved out toward the ball joint (about 2 inches) has provided positive results. So far, it definitely appears to be superior to running a set of 560 or 620 springs in the stock location.
I have a full day of testing at the track scheduled in April. I hope to come to a conclusion soon after.
Mike, you're right... guess I am taking corners a bit harder, lol
No wonder I like negative camber so much!
I actually happen to have that "set" of upper arms John made

So far (with limited testing), a set of stock V8 coil springs (cut to achieve proper ride height) with the spring perch moved out toward the ball joint (about 2 inches) has provided positive results. So far, it definitely appears to be superior to running a set of 560 or 620 springs in the stock location.
I have a full day of testing at the track scheduled in April. I hope to come to a conclusion soon after.
Mike, you're right... guess I am taking corners a bit harder, lol
No wonder I like negative camber so much!


