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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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If money is not an issue, then get a Griffin aluminum radiator, an electric fan, and an overflow tank.
That's the combo I have. But Griffin just recently upped all their rad prices by several hundred dollars. I'd get the thickest core Fluidyne you can fit.
Old Jul 16, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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Thanks for the help guys. I wasn't sure if it was just hype but it looks like people swear by aluminium—good to know. I'd like to add A/C one day so I just want to make sure the cooling situation for the emgine is bulletproof first.

http://www.fluidyne.com/pl_hpdomestics.html

I had a glance here and it looks like Fluidyne doesn't cover my year: '67. so it looks like I'll be forking out the dough to Griffin!

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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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You could look into ron davis radiators...theres some good radiator manufacturers out there, if your going to buy a new one. Shrouds are a necessity. How about the water restrictor?
Old Jul 16, 2006 | 10:56 PM
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Hey,
I am having a similar problem, My 69 has a high performance 302 with a pretty big cam in it. I was running the stock coolant system and was running really hot. Last week i upgraded to a 3+ row radiator a high flow water pump, and 2400 cfm electric fan. I also put a a new mechanical fan that sits about 4 inches from the face of the radiator and put a 4 inch fan shroud on. Now even with all of that the car still runs right below H, it is almost touching H. I am afraid to drive it because i dont want to kill it. I also had a 195 degree thermostat in and downgraded to a 180. Still there is no real difference. the only thing that i noticed with the new coolant system is it takes longer for it to get to H as oppsed to before. I also have the stock radiator cap on, it is old and rustty, but the rubber looks good underneath, Could that cause a problem, or do you think i should get a spacer for the fan to get it closer to the radiator. Any suggestions will be appericiated!
Thanks for your time!
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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Hey,
I am having a similar problem, My 69 has a high performance 302 with a pretty big cam in it. I was running the stock coolant system and was running really hot. Last week i upgraded to a 3+ row radiator a high flow water pump, and 2400 cfm electric fan. I also put a a new mechanical fan that sits about 4 inches from the face of the radiator and put a 4 inch fan shroud on. Now even with all of that the car still runs right below H, it is almost touching H. I am afraid to drive it because i dont want to kill it. I also had a 195 degree thermostat in and downgraded to a 180. Still there is no real difference. the only thing that i noticed with the new coolant system is it takes longer for it to get to H as oppsed to before. I also have the stock radiator cap on, it is old and rustty, but the rubber looks good underneath, Could that cause a problem, or do you think i should get a spacer for the fan to get it closer to the radiator. Any suggestions will be appericiated!
Thanks for your time!
Matt
The fan should be closer. Just remember to keep about half of the fan outside the shroud.
Old Jul 16, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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Having learned the hard way....don't trust the guage in your car. Mine was running just blow "H" for the longest time. I finally broke down and purchased an infrared thermometer and found out I was running right at 180 which is also the thermostat I have installed. Come to find out that my guage needed to be re-zeroed and I also adjusted the calibration. It requires pulling the guage but there is a good article about guages in the FAQ if you are interested.

Just thought you might want to know
Old Jul 16, 2006 | 11:21 PM
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Having learned the hard way....don't trust the guage in your car. Mine was running just blow "H" for the longest time. I finally broke down and purchased an infrared thermometer and found out I was running right at 180 which is also the thermostat I have installed. Come to find out that my guage needed to be re-zeroed and I also adjusted the calibration. It requires pulling the guage but there is a good article about guages in the FAQ if you are interested.

Just thought you might want to know
Good info and input. I wouldn't trust my idiot lights or stock gauges for anything. An infrared thermometer is the cat's meow for getting an accurate reading.
Old Jul 16, 2006 | 11:44 PM
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I thought the engine runs hotter at idle??? when it's moving, it'll go down 15-20 degrees.
Sure - they'll heat up while sitting still in traffic. That's for sure! But if you're pulling all the air possible through the radiator and not allowing much (if any) to escape around the edges, you shouldn't get hot enough to actually boil over. Forgot to mention: WaterWetter is an excellent product. Adding a bottle to your radiator will really drop the running temp by 10 or 15Ëš.

There are just so many possible culprits when trying to nail down overheating. A good rule of thumb is to do the cheap stuff first: get a recovery tank and replace that radiator cap with a brand new "closed system" one, and get yourself one of the Prestone backflush kits. Those couple of things shouldn't run you more than about $25 together - and just may do the trick.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 12:16 AM
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I have a '67 with a newly rebuilt 302 roller (.030 over) with a holly 4 barrel. There's a 4 row radiator and the fan shroud is in place. It's still running SUPER hot.

See here:
http://coopgrafik.com/blog/?p=27

Will an aluminium radiator really help? Do you think I should go with an electric fan? Any recommendations on brands? I kinda thought everything was right but it's not helping at all. It's 100+ where I live and drive to work every day. Money isn't an issue so overkill solutions are welcome.

Thanks,

Coop

Boy, I wish money wasn't an issue with me
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 12:33 AM
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water wetter helped me big time and i live in AZ and sit on the highway in traffic during the 115 heat with my ac on and my cooling system is stock



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