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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 06:11 AM
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build the 6 its a reliable motor that never got its due in the perf aspect and you can make them pretty quick i personally prefer the big six 240-300 get a 300 a 4 bbl intake for it a small four barrel carb a turbo a cam some headers and some head work and call it a day oh ya and build ut the rear end cause if you want a v8 car then buy a v8 car
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 08:30 AM
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Soaring took the time to make navigating the FAQ section easy. There's gobs of info on the I6 - V8 swap there.

In any case, the swap is not so much as hard as it is pricy. That's the main reason folks opt to sell their 6 and get an 8 platform.

Old Mar 5, 2007 | 11:32 AM
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What you save by using the Lincoln for an engine and trans will not make up for what it will cost you to put that 460 in there. No suspension parts will interchange, and it possibly has the 9 3/8" rear end that has no performance gears made and will still need shortened/narrowed to fit your 65.

You being 17 means you dont have a huge budget, unless dad is paying all the bills, right? Stuffing a 460 in a 65 is not a cheap option. 460's are the heaviest passenger car engine (gasoline) built between 64 and the present. 900lbs of iron up front doesnt make it easy to turn or get the tires to stick. The shock towers in the pic posted above have been modified heavily, you can see the upper control arms near the exhaust manifolds. Its doubtfull they have much support, and th front end is probably not in very good health. The C6 trans that the 460 needs (no other auto trans will bolt up) wont fit in the trans tunnel of the 65, it will need to be cut.

You have a small light car, you dont need an engine that is almost as heavy as the rest of the car in it. Sure it would be faster than the 6, but it still wont be fast, and it will drive like crap. Work with the 6 or do the 289/302/351W swap. Putting a small block in there is much cheaper than a 460, although it isnt cheap to do it. If you want it fast, then the 302 or 351W is the way to go.

In the end its your car. If you want to cut it up to try and fit a huge engine, well thats up to you. We have seen projects like that get cut up, and then left because of lack of funds way to often. Instead of driving the car, it becomes yard art and never moves under its own power. Then as it rusts to nothing in the driveway, the owner when asked if its for sale will either take a huge loss selling the car, or say "I want to restore it someday so its not for sale" and it never gets touched. It just sits there and rusts untill they just get tired of looking at it and they send it to the junkyard.

But hey, if you want to try it, dont let me stop you. I dont own it, I just work on them..
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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hey ok so the 460 is out (too much money that i dont have ) besides the header swap, springs, tranny, rear upgrades,and the motor mounts waht else is involed in the 351 swap i no i defintly dont want to keep the six (ill probaly sell it when it comes out if anyone wants to buyit )

here is a pic of my 65 stang(it is basicly exactly how i boutit minus fluids and minor stuff like that but here it is)im gonna put new paint and everythingon it has some surface rust but it is solid other than that new picks to come as work is getting done

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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 12:37 AM
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I say go with a 289, 302 or 351, You can get these in without major surgery. Plus an FE engine is just too heavy for a classic Mustang, in my opinion anyway.

As far as the the chasis mods go, you will need to replace lots of steering, brake, and suspension parts. Also you will need to replace the transmission and rear axle. We have done the chasis part of the swap on my son's car, and we are in process of doing the engine and transmission now.

We have done all of the work, (nothing has gone out except machine work on the engine block) It has been, and I expect it to continue to be a bolt in process, it will cost no where near 30 g, even with the lots of upgrades above stock that are and will be done.

I would recomend that your stock 6 cyl. car be in really good shape for the swap to be economicaly viable. You may want to spend a lot of money on rust repair and bodywork in addition to what will be required to make the conversion.
Old Mar 6, 2007 | 12:55 AM
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right now i have i 250 straight 6(it is out of a 72 mavrick, a previous owner put it in) i want to put a v-8 engine in it i was wondering if i could put a 460 in it and how hard it would be to do the swap i no the basic stuff ill have to do ( like mounts, suspenison upgrades amoung other things) any help is gratly apreciatedif it cant be do will a 390 or a 351 fit
if you plan to put it in that 65 you're gonna have to eliminate your shock towers and put in place a mustang II suspension or similar. i'm not ever gonna say not go for it but be prepared for an *** load of work or to empty that fat wallet. either way you're probably gonna anyway. 351 will go in with a header swap if you have the v8 suspension in the car. 390 is in the same boat as the 460. either way,good luck with your decision
Speaking of M-II front suspensions....has anyone here ever heard of any company that builds them for cars with a longer wheel base that addresses the Ackerman on the car? Years ago I called Heidt's to inquire about that and they took the position that it didn't matter. Well, it does if you want your inside tire to turn on the correct radius. Anyway, just thought I'd ask.
Old Mar 6, 2007 | 12:58 AM
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hey ok so the 460 is out (too much money that i dont have ) besides the header swap, springs, tranny, rear upgrades,and the motor mounts waht else is involed in the 351 swap i no i defintly dont want to keep the six (ill probaly sell it when it comes out if anyone wants to buyit )

here is a pic of my 65 stang(it is basicly exactly how i boutit minus fluids and minor stuff like that but here it is)im gonna put new paint and everythingon it has some surface rust but it is solid other than that new picks to come as work is getting done

[IMG]local://upfiles/62659/1B9A5276163B43B1A8FAC6E77C6A5A0D.jpg[/IMG]
The 351W will use the same mtor mounts as the 289/302...but unless you already have the 351 why not go with a 347 stroker and get the advantage of parts that cost less and fit better? I plan on doing just that.
Old Mar 6, 2007 | 05:08 AM
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any v8 289 302 351 etc etc youll have to change the springs rear end brakes if you dont the car will be unsafe to drive
Old Mar 6, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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Sure does look like a 67 or later firewall with that recessed brake booster.
Old Mar 6, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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Hey guys i planning to do this to my 67 fastback as well prob go with a 302 and t5 tranny my question is do i need to replace the spindles with v-8 ones or do i just need to change the springs. I was also told that i would most likely need a v-8 axel in back. Also is there a place i can buy these parts new or would i be better off finding a cheep coupe parts car?



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