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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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was lookin into redoing my front suspension on my '65coupe,restomod style...hehehe. i like the coilover bolt-in upgrade, but i ALSO like the weld in mustang 2 front end. i dont really plan on autocrossing and whatnot, but i do drive like a bat outta hell. so i want yall's opinions. no matter which one, i want to drop the front and rear about 1 inch, maybe more not sure yet. anyhoo, what do yall think? its a 65 coupe, 289, 3-speed stick (its goin bye bye soon enough ). Thanks.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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If you have the money, I would personally get the weld in M2 setup. Its about 2 grand right?, but once you add up the individual cost of R&P steering, coil over, and nice brakes, etc etc its pretty cheap IMO
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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This is my opinion only, but I think the Mustang II front was a novel idea back in the day, but with all the other options out there now, I wouldn't touch it! You basically have to hack up your classic to put it in. If you're hellbent on rack and pinion, I'd stick a Flaming River or Unisteer, et al and upgrade the stock suspension to a Global West, etc. You'll get the best of the modern stuff without hacking up your ride.

I know Soaring will agree with me on this one!
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 11:10 PM
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see, i was thinkin of goin the coil-over route and getting a flaming river steering box because of cost and dont need to hack up the front end. however, i like how trick the M2 setup looks, also cleans up the engine bay by getting rid of the shock towers.
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 07:30 AM
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global west does have a coil over kit for the 65/66 mustangs now i like theres over the rest mostly since the shock tower mount is nice and thick on both sides unlike the others. only mustang 2 id ever use is http://www.martzchassis.net/page3.htm theres is alot thicker and has braces to the firewall unlike most weld in ones which weaken your front end
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 09:00 AM
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If you have the money, I would personally get the weld in M2 setup. Its about 2 grand right?, but once you add up the individual cost of R&P steering, coil over, and nice brakes, etc etc its pretty cheap IMO
I know I sound like a broken record (do you guys remember those things) but nobody I've spoken with about MII's will address the Ackerman. Wasen't the M II a 96" wheelbase? If so the Ackerman would be off by a country mile if you installed it on a car with a 108" wheelbase. And the cost with GOOD brakes/shocks and tubular arms is closer to $3500.00
Global West is about to introduce a new complete coil-over front for the 65/66 that includes the stabilizer bar and some other nice parts.
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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the mustang 2 kit is more of a bandaid and the global west coilover kit for a 65/66 is for sell now mustang-unl.com has them search for coilover
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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This is my opinion only, but I think the Mustang II front was a novel idea back in the day, but with all the other options out there now, I wouldn't touch it! You basically have to hack up your classic to put it in. If you're hellbent on rack and pinion, I'd stick a Flaming River or Unisteer, et al and upgrade the stock suspension to a Global West, etc. You'll get the best of the modern stuff without hacking up your ride.
+1

Except for the Flaming River R&P - I, and several others here, would not recommend it at all. [:@] The FR steering box, however, is another question. [&:]
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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i have discussed with john from opentracker the issue of upgrading my front suspension..
i suggested myself maybe the (expensive)road race controlarms would be a good idea to install on my 66 but he told me it would be an overkill and wasting money unless i really want to use it for racing.
the things he suggested as good upgrades that would make a difference:
roller spring perches , heavier swaybar , roller idler arm , monte carlo bar , exportbrace , furthermore just the street ready controlarms.............. and the 1"shelbydrop

so i guess the expensive( coilover etc)suspension from total control, global west the above recommendations counts too.. not saying they are not good.. but they might be an overkill costing you big $$with no noticable effect ( for the streetdriver)
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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I have upgraded my whole suspension all the way around with brakes and a new steering system. I decided to go with the R&P setup from flamoing river and have had absolutley no problems with it. Also its installation was a piece of cake.... everything bolts in nicely without having to modify your car at all. LIke was said it is definately a good idea to upgrade other things like sway bars, an export brace, monte carlo bar, etc. IMO



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