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Old May 4, 2007 | 05:30 AM
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ok, before you reply and say "search the old threads" i did already. lemme just get this straight

bare metal, self etching primer, body filler, smooth out with sand paper, block primer, sand smooth, then what?

and also, there are a few places i did not sand down, places like my deck lid, roof, half my hood. i already know theres no bondo or rust underneath, so would it be fine to prime over it without sanding?

this is my first priming btw

Old May 4, 2007 | 06:40 AM
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ok, before you reply and say "search the old threads" i did already. lemme just get this straight

bare metal, self etching primer, body filler, smooth out with sand paper, block primer, sand smooth, then what?

and also, there are a few places i did not sand down, places like my deck lid, roof, half my hood. i already know theres no bondo or rust underneath, so would it be fine to prime over it without sanding?

this is my first priming btw

from what i've heard...etching primer has acids in it that wreck stuff...i think you mean epoxy primer?
Old May 4, 2007 | 08:25 AM
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ask rmodel he knows better then any of us
Old May 4, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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Ecth primer is good if you are going to paint the car right away but you should not put filler on etch primer. You should remove it where you are doing the filler work.
If there will be anytime delay between priming and painting I would recommend epoxy primer. You can place filler on top of epoxy, and some prefer this as the epoxy seals the metal where as the body filler can absorb moisture and hold it next to the metal causing four letter words to develop, the first of which is RUST.

Get the P-sheets for what ever product you buy. It will have important information like blend rates with reducers (and hardeners if needed), application windows, and the time window between successive coats.

IMPORTANT automotive paints with hardeners are POISION!!!! Please wear proper breathing equipment. I cannot believe the number of TV shows where they show painters using unsafe practices.


When I removed the paint from my car by sanding, I was able to observe there was some rust UNDER the factory primer!!! Just because you cannot see the rust doesn't mean it isn't there!!!

for the best auto painting advice on the web go to the classroom page on autobodystore.com. Read the Basics section and join the discussion group. I also found it to be a good place to buy supplies and tools. (No association, just trying to be helpful)
Old May 4, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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after final sand, prime, block, seal and paint
Old May 4, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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ook i get it now, well, then just to play it safe im gunna sand down the area's that i havnt sanded down yet to bare metal.

also 1 more question i forgot, my new doors and fenders are i guess primed black, do i have to prime over it again?
Old May 4, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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that is a anti rust coating, at our shop we scuff it with a red scuff pad, seal it and paint it, depending if it doenst need fixed.
Old May 4, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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yea they are brand new, so i will just prime over it
Old May 4, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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dont get priming confused with sealing a panel, primer is a sprayable filler (kinda) sealer is the final topcoat that is not suposed to be sanded down before painting, a sealer eliminates sanding scratches (some) and d.a. marks. only prime if you have to do work but dont prime the whole panel if it is not needed
Old May 5, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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dont get priming confused with sealing a panel, primer is a sprayable filler (kinda) sealer is the final topcoat that is not suposed to be sanded down before painting, a sealer eliminates sanding scratches (some) and d.a. marks. only prime if you have to do work but dont prime the whole panel if it is not needed
well most my car is bare metal, but its in my garage so no water can get to it. so wont i have to prime the bare metal nonetheless?

also i am confused, so do i, or do i not need to prime the enw body panels that were already black?



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