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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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Default How to remove a Harmonic Balancer?

Got all the belts and the main pulley off the mustang last night in anticipation of my new Fluidamper arriving today. I ran into to a problem getting the old balancer off last night. I have a crow’s foot/harmonic balancer/steering wheel remove, but that is not the issue. I cannot get the bolt to break loose without the crank turning. Once I get that done, I should be good to go. I was afraid to get on it with an impact wrench. Any ideas? I may head to Home Depot today to get some steel stock and try and make a crank brace of some sort.

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Oh, I have the tranny engaged and in reverse. Would putting it in 4th gear help?
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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Reverse is the best holding gear. I usually wedge a small screwdriver in one of the holes on the flywheel let it turn untill it gets wedged on the block and break her free. Ive also seen some crank bolts that were loctited into place and needed to be heated before theyd break loose.
Or leave it in reverse, have someone else get in hold the brakes. Make sure you have a breaker bar, and it wouldnt hurt to put a piece of 3 or 4 ft pipe on it for some extra leverage.
BTW, there is a tool made especially for locking/holding the flywheel, I think they might sell it at Sears.
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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Use the impact. Just make sure you are reversing it.
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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Thanks. I will head to Sears this afternoon to see if they have that tool. I was thinking of cutting a piece of steel, drilling it, bolting it to the harmonic balancer, and then cutting it to length so it would rest on the garage floor. Kinda making a brace. This mightkeep the harmonic balancer from turning, but it is kinda jury rigged. I think I will try the reverse person in the car on the brake thing first. Should I be scared of using an impact wrench on it?
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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I've taken hundreds of these off with an impact. Best tool to use.

Pop it a few times to loosen it up. Don't hammer down in it constantly.

Just don't put it back on with an impact. Use a torque wrench.
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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I've taken hundreds of these off with an impact. Best tool to use.

Pop it a few times to loosen it up. Don't hammer down in it constantly.

Just don't put it back on with an impact. Use a torque wrench.
I will give it a try this afternoon. You don't have a problem with the crank spinning when you are hitting it with the impact?
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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Hit it a couple of times then it should come right off. The crank may try to turn a little but that is no biggie. Be careful when you put the new one back on. Just lightly tap it on with a dead blow until you can get the bolt threads started. Then use the bolt to slide the balancer back on. Lightly grease the washer (do not put any grease orlube on the threads)on the bolt to help some when putting it back on and use a ratchet to tighten it up, then torque it with a torque wrench (this is when the crank will turn, I used a large screw driver to hold it). Let me know how the fluidamper works. I was considering this myself.
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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Hit it a couple of times then it should come right off. The crank may try to turn a little but that is no biggie. Be careful when you put the new one back on. Just lightly tap it on with a dead blow until you can get the bolt threads started. Then use the bolt to slide the balancer back on. Lightly grease the washer (do not put any grease orlube on the threads)on the bolt to help some when putting it back on and use a ratchet to tighten it up, then torque it with a torque wrench (this is when the crank will turn, I used a large screw driver to hold it). Let me know how the fluidamper works. I was considering this myself.
I'll let you know about the Fluidamper. I know it is a heavy SOB! Should I use LocTite when installing the next bolt? What color (red or blue)? I think the red is more stout.
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 11:55 PM
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No, no loctite, no WD-40, nothing! Clean the threads up with a wire brush then torque it down. That will be the hard part, just off the top of my head it runs 150 ft.lbs. But you need to check your manual before you do it. You never know when you will need to remove it again...
Old Jun 16, 2007 | 02:10 AM
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Thanks for all the help. The impact wrench worked great. Boy pulling this dang thing took forever. I had a steering wheel/harmonic balancer puller, but man it fought the whole way. It was about 98deg here this afternoon, so I had to hit it in phases. I have quit for the night and will install the one tomorrow. The old balancer looks a little worn out, but was not spun. Guess this was a little bit of an unneeded project, but it was a good time. Again, thanks for the help, and I will stay away from the LocTite![sm=loser.gif]



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