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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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I don't know James, sounds like a loose lifter to me. I would describe a rod bearing problem as being a much deaper sound than that, and the word "Clack" comes to mind. What I am hearing is a loose lifter tick. There is only one way to find out and is to take the valve covers off and check the lifter clearances.
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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I don't know James, sounds like a loose lifter to me. I would describe a rod bearing problem as being a much deaper sound than that, and the word "Clack" comes to mind. What I am hearing is a loose lifter tick. There is only one way to find out and is to take the valve covers off and check the lifter clearances.
Yea, everytime I listen to the clip I develop a different opinion,,,, I hope you are right about that for mstg007's sake!

In any case I would want to eliminate a valvetrain issue before taking that engine apart,,, Yep I would pull the covers also.....
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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A rod bearing problem would make that clacking sound from the get-go and not go away. I have my 02 cents on a loose rocker arm. Let's cross our fingers.
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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Guys, I like that thought... When I replaced the lifters, I torqued the rocker arm all the way down as tight as it would go. How else can I check the clearnace or to see if its a rod?
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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You did WHAT??? Follow this guide and re-adjust all your lifters.
http://raceabilene.com/kelly/hotrod/valveadj.html
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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Yeah, follow that guide to PROPERLY adjust the valvetrain. It does sound like it could definately bea loose lifter
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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Guys, I like that thought... When I replaced the lifters, I torqued the rocker arm all the way down as tight as it would go. How else can I check the clearnace or to see if its a rod?
did you have the same knock before you changed the lifters????

and,,, you engine looks good,,,, I like the valve covers a lot.....
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 08:56 AM
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Default RE: 65 - 302 Engine ruff on first starting

I did have the knock before, that is why I replaced all the lifters with new ones.

I will try to do what the guide says... I will let you know results.
Thanks again
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 03:00 PM
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If the cam had gotten chewed up and put a hole in the bottom of the lifter which would allow it to bleed down then when u replaced the lifters the cam could be chewing one up again.I had that problem on a 69 chevelle.But if it was a lifter ud hear it all throught the rpm range
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