If you could have EFI without a specific computer, would you go for it?
#31
RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, would you go for it?
ORIGINAL: Soaring
There were no EFI engines, or 5.0 engines in the 1965-73 classic cars. Why do you guys constantly want to put them into a car that was not designed for those engines? Buy a Fox body and do anything with it that you want. An EFI in a classic is no more different than a Toyota or any other engine in a classic because the engine was not designed for a classic car. The next thing out of your mouth will be to put a 350 bow tie in a classic Mustang because it is an American made engine. I draw the line in the sand. If the engine was not designed for the classic car, then it does not belong in there. Find yourself another hobby.
ORIGINAL: tarafied1
I respect your opinion and I like Carbs too. I have a Holley on my 67 but I'm not sure how putting EFI on a classic car is the same as putting a Toyota engine in a Mustang. From the purist point of view I entirely respect the carb, but Ford makes EFI for 5.0's that is so easy to adapt and would be ALL Ford parts. Even an aftermarket system is no different than changing gears, wheels, exhaust, cams, etc., etc.
Anyway to each his own.
Craig
ORIGINAL: Soaring
Everybody who has been a member on here for any time at all knows that I think a classic mustang with an EFI engine is just wrong. You may as well put a Toyota engine in it as far as I am concerned. It's the same thing. You are putting an engine into a classic that was not designed for a classic Mustang. I like Motorcraft carbs.
Everybody who has been a member on here for any time at all knows that I think a classic mustang with an EFI engine is just wrong. You may as well put a Toyota engine in it as far as I am concerned. It's the same thing. You are putting an engine into a classic that was not designed for a classic Mustang. I like Motorcraft carbs.
Anyway to each his own.
Craig
#32
RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, would you go for it?
ORIGINAL: JD1969
You know Glen there is room in this hobby for everyone, if you don't care for a new modern engine in a great looking classic ride that's your right, but how do you get off telling people what they should or should not do with THEIR car. Not everyone wants a classic Stang that can't beat a Honda Civic and handles like a Model T. Original is great for some of the more rare cars but who cares if some guy wants to moderize his 6 cylinder 66 coupe.
ORIGINAL: Soaring
There were no EFI engines, or 5.0 engines in the 1965-73 classic cars. Why do you guys constantly want to put them into a car that was not designed for those engines? Buy a Fox body and do anything with it that you want. An EFI in a classic is no more different than a Toyota or any other engine in a classic because the engine was not designed for a classic car. The next thing out of your mouth will be to put a 350 bow tie in a classic Mustang because it is an American made engine. I draw the line in the sand. If the engine was not designed for the classic car, then it does not belong in there. Find yourself another hobby.
ORIGINAL: tarafied1
I respect your opinion and I like Carbs too. I have a Holley on my 67 but I'm not sure how putting EFI on a classic car is the same as putting a Toyota engine in a Mustang. From the purist point of view I entirely respect the carb, but Ford makes EFI for 5.0's that is so easy to adapt and would be ALL Ford parts. Even an aftermarket system is no different than changing gears, wheels, exhaust, cams, etc., etc.
Anyway to each his own.
Craig
ORIGINAL: Soaring
Everybody who has been a member on here for any time at all knows that I think a classic mustang with an EFI engine is just wrong. You may as well put a Toyota engine in it as far as I am concerned. It's the same thing. You are putting an engine into a classic that was not designed for a classic Mustang. I like Motorcraft carbs.
Everybody who has been a member on here for any time at all knows that I think a classic mustang with an EFI engine is just wrong. You may as well put a Toyota engine in it as far as I am concerned. It's the same thing. You are putting an engine into a classic that was not designed for a classic Mustang. I like Motorcraft carbs.
Anyway to each his own.
Craig
Jim
#33
RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, would you go for it?
Trust me, I can more than stand the heat. I wasn't always into the modern cars. You want controversy try modding a 60's era Mopar and see what the "purists think". The numbers matching Mopar bunch are the worst about this kinda thing. Don't even dare utter the word "clone" around them.
#35
RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, would you go for it?
Glen you fizz up over this like mentos in a pepsi bottle
actually Toyota make some good quad cam v8s with plenty of potential[8D]
Ol Yeller would smack the pants of his little brother then.[sm=gears.gif]
actually Toyota make some good quad cam v8s with plenty of potential[8D]
Ol Yeller would smack the pants of his little brother then.[sm=gears.gif]
#36
RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, would you go for it?
ORIGINAL: JamesW
Not sure your position Jim, are you saying the kitchen (this section) isfor original unmodified mustangs?
Not sure your position Jim, are you saying the kitchen (this section) isfor original unmodified mustangs?
Jim
#37
RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, would you go for it?
I'm not good with gauges and wiring [8D]. People answer the questions they know the answers to. Well, not always, but you get what I mean.
#38
RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, would you go for it?
So the "kitchen"...is the classics, whether it be unrestored, restored, strip, track, off road, modified, or whatever the case may be...it's all about helping each other achieve what ever it is they are trying to achieve...right?
I've noticed how you usually answer posts... youchime inwhen you have a helpful fact or opinion and otherwise don't belittle others for their preferences. All I wish is that others would do the same.
If I know the answer on wire gage or original part condition I will chime in... but sadly my car was so originally butchered that I woudn't know right from wrong.
BTW... I have had that calendar shot of your white GT in my garage for years.
I've noticed how you usually answer posts... youchime inwhen you have a helpful fact or opinion and otherwise don't belittle others for their preferences. All I wish is that others would do the same.
If I know the answer on wire gage or original part condition I will chime in... but sadly my car was so originally butchered that I woudn't know right from wrong.
BTW... I have had that calendar shot of your white GT in my garage for years.
#39
RE: If you could have EFI without a specific computer, would you go for it?
Thanks. I'll tell the photographer. In that session, he kept asking me about the car and what did I do to it, mods and such. I told him none, well very few. When that particularshot was made, I was concerned about the lights wearing down the old battery and neither of us had jumpers. I held the reflector to get more light to the front of the car.
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Jim
If you want to see some nice photos of a great variety of cars, go to http://www.ronkimballstock.com/
Jim
#40
Not about to pick on Soaring, and I listen to your position, but...
I cannot for the life of me figure out why you are so passionate about something that seems so individual and, well... unimportantto me. As my engine sits, the only thing Ford designed is the block. Everything Ford designed and built had completely crapped out. I wasn't up for a big block... although it would have been a blast, too much engine bay reinvention for me. I wanted the sassiest little 289/302 I could get without pissing my wife off with the bills. I pushed it, but she still loves me. Name a part and I've gone better than what was designed as stock. Discs front and back, Granada, Jeep. Frame stiffening, brakes, wheels, fuel tank, Gauge cluster, suspension, steering... on and on with the upgrades. If I could pick up my body and slide an '07 Corvette soul under it, it would be done. I'm not capable. I thought original sucked. I don't morn for any of those original parts. There's really nothing wrong with the way my Carter carb is functioning. If you have this Megasquirt, the world is your dyno. You can adjust certainthings and see results in real time. It seems to me, a luxury.
I'm befuddled not bythe opinion of someone who likes the nostalgia of originality, but by the passion with which they hate the restomod movement. I was already aware of Glen's opinion; not particurly threatened by it. Many here tend to want to confront him. I'd just like to know WHY he and others have such energy behind that opinion. I think of all the homes in the US that were built before central air. Air conditioning is soooooooo cooooool! (pardon the pun). The upgrade to central air and an EFI upgrade are parallel in my mind, but not in everyone's mind. If any of you "originalators" would take the time to help me understand what specifically sparks such emotion regarding originality, there'd probably be a lot less confrontation here. Anyone care to give us the "why" behind these passionate opinions? A favorite memory? Treatened by change? Cause we should all like the same things the same way? What? I'd really like to know.
I'm befuddled not bythe opinion of someone who likes the nostalgia of originality, but by the passion with which they hate the restomod movement. I was already aware of Glen's opinion; not particurly threatened by it. Many here tend to want to confront him. I'd just like to know WHY he and others have such energy behind that opinion. I think of all the homes in the US that were built before central air. Air conditioning is soooooooo cooooool! (pardon the pun). The upgrade to central air and an EFI upgrade are parallel in my mind, but not in everyone's mind. If any of you "originalators" would take the time to help me understand what specifically sparks such emotion regarding originality, there'd probably be a lot less confrontation here. Anyone care to give us the "why" behind these passionate opinions? A favorite memory? Treatened by change? Cause we should all like the same things the same way? What? I'd really like to know.