Keep, Sell, Part out? Help me decide!!
I'm not remaking the car into a tuner image at all... I'm keeping the classic look with the exception ofa lower stance and 18" American Racing Shelby 427 series wheels...
The underpinnings won't be tuner either, but just updated parts, such as tube a-arms/4-link and coilovers... There will be a big disc brake setup on all four corners, but who doesn't have that anymore?
And since when does the addition of a turbo change the musclecar image?
I respect your opinions, although I have to disagree.
The underpinnings won't be tuner either, but just updated parts, such as tube a-arms/4-link and coilovers... There will be a big disc brake setup on all four corners, but who doesn't have that anymore?
And since when does the addition of a turbo change the musclecar image?
I respect your opinions, although I have to disagree.
ORIGINAL: Blackms3
I'm not remaking the car into a tuner image at all... I'm keeping the classic look with the exception ofa lower stance and 18" American Racing Shelby 427 series wheels...
The underpinnings won't be tuner either, but just updated parts, such as tube a-arms/4-link and coilovers... There will be a big disc brake setup on all four corners, but who doesn't have that anymore?
And since when does the addition of a turbo change the musclecar image?
I respect your opinions, although I have to disagree.
I'm not remaking the car into a tuner image at all... I'm keeping the classic look with the exception ofa lower stance and 18" American Racing Shelby 427 series wheels...
The underpinnings won't be tuner either, but just updated parts, such as tube a-arms/4-link and coilovers... There will be a big disc brake setup on all four corners, but who doesn't have that anymore?
And since when does the addition of a turbo change the musclecar image?
I respect your opinions, although I have to disagree.
Like I said,,, I wanted to express my biases right up front....
I am not saying that I am right,,
, but these are my opinions.... I made the "tuner" connection based on your original post, in retrospect, probably incorrectly.
Don't read too much into my opinions, they are just that, my opinions....
nothing more, nothing less...Will I answer your posts to try and help you along whatever path you choose? Of course I will do whatever I can do to help, whether I agree with what you are doing or not.
And, I am glad to hear that your plans do not include a giant stainless wing and a VTECH......

By all means, please express your opinions as much as you wish. I love a good debate. I just wanted to clarify what made you come to the conclusion that I was making a "tuner" mustang. My tuner remarks were in respect to the technology used to make 2.0Liter 4 cylinder motors make 1200WHP... I figure I should be able to do that on twice the cylinders with a much higher reliability.... I give respect to the tuner side as they know what they are doing when it comes to electronic engine management and you cannot fault them for finding ways to keep up with the big displacement american market and by god they do...
Rest assured there will be no wing or Vtec (very hard to do on a single centered cam) on this car.....
I'm building this as a result of owning my first import... a 2007 Mazdaspeed3. This thing now makes over 300hp at the crank on a 4 banger with a tiny turbo... not much to alot of folks, but I can guarantee that the pull from 80 to 130MPH will keep you grinning!!!
Either way, I'm pretty hard to sway, but don't worry I will keep it respectable no matter what route!
Rest assured there will be no wing or Vtec (very hard to do on a single centered cam) on this car.....
I'm building this as a result of owning my first import... a 2007 Mazdaspeed3. This thing now makes over 300hp at the crank on a 4 banger with a tiny turbo... not much to alot of folks, but I can guarantee that the pull from 80 to 130MPH will keep you grinning!!!
Either way, I'm pretty hard to sway, but don't worry I will keep it respectable no matter what route!
Sounds like a pretty freakin sweet build to me! But if it were mine I'd do with a 67 or newer car, for more room in the engine bay for that twin turbo of sexiness setup. Thats not a tuner at all, just stay away from underglow neon and a funky looking fiberglass interior and you will be ok! Turbos are power adders and do twice as much for V8'sthan for a 4cyl. And seeing as how its not exactly a rare model or numbers matching or original, I see no problems with cutting it up. Just make sure the end result still looks classy and like a muscle car. My 2 cents...
There is alot that is still in the making... I should have room just ahead of the motor and I've entertained the thought of using a water to air intercooler or water cooled intake manifold with an additional heat exchanger (like a oil cooler) instead of trying to fit a massive air to air intercooler somewhere, but that would mean more fabrication.. I do have access to a very well equipped metal shop though, so not that big of an issue.
I won't go to a '67 up chassis, as I like the lines of the 66 and older... I may have to go to a mustang II style front setup, but I'll cross that bridge when I get there...
I won't go to a '67 up chassis, as I like the lines of the 66 and older... I may have to go to a mustang II style front setup, but I'll cross that bridge when I get there...
ORIGINAL: Blackms3
.......the only issue being the entire body will most likely be media blasted prior to the build and there goes a decent paint job down the tube...
.......the only issue being the entire body will most likely be media blasted prior to the build and there goes a decent paint job down the tube...
This is one of the reasons for the thread in the first place... the car does have a pretty good paint job on it already, and I like the color, but fabbing up something of this magnatude will ultimately be easier with a stripped shell... I have a feeling if I try and keep what I have, it will be ruined in the over all process.
Plus all that undercoating stuff on the inner fenderwells is alot of un-needed weight and looks horrible. Not to mention the fact there is the possibility of alot more rust than I found the first run through... I already need to fix the driver floor pan and the torque boxes show some signs of missed rust as well...
These are all things I'm trying to keep under consideration and the end result may not have to be stripped and I may be able to salvage the paint... that has yet to be determined though..
I have a tendency to want to start with a clean sheet....
This is apparent with my ATV build....for example...
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Plus all that undercoating stuff on the inner fenderwells is alot of un-needed weight and looks horrible. Not to mention the fact there is the possibility of alot more rust than I found the first run through... I already need to fix the driver floor pan and the torque boxes show some signs of missed rust as well...
These are all things I'm trying to keep under consideration and the end result may not have to be stripped and I may be able to salvage the paint... that has yet to be determined though..
I have a tendency to want to start with a clean sheet....
This is apparent with my ATV build....for example...
Before

During
reDuring

End result
Hello,sounds to me you are looking for a pro-touring type set up. I'm going a similar route with my '65 convertible minus all the vroom pssshhhh vroom psshhh(wayyy out of my budget),none the less...very cool. If I were in a similar situation(whichI am) I would sale off the parts I didn't want and use the money to get parts more usable for high hp crusing. Check out total control products rear end kit--cha ching,but worth it. Also check out martz chassis,and if I'm not mistaken there is a link for a independent rear end set up in FAQ. Whichever way you decide to go,good luck and welcome to the forums.
Thanks for the insight and the info.
Iagree we are going in the same basic direction...a great handling car with classic looks.
The budget on the boosted motor will be up there, especially with a Dart Iron Eagle block as the foundation... that alone is some $$$$... either way, I know this won't happen overnight and I've already set a goal of 3 years... I don't want to go over, but I have a feeling I will... both on time and budget..
My biggest hurdle is what to do over the next six months with what I have and once I figure that out, I'll go from there.
Iagree we are going in the same basic direction...a great handling car with classic looks.
The budget on the boosted motor will be up there, especially with a Dart Iron Eagle block as the foundation... that alone is some $$$$... either way, I know this won't happen overnight and I've already set a goal of 3 years... I don't want to go over, but I have a feeling I will... both on time and budget..
My biggest hurdle is what to do over the next six months with what I have and once I figure that out, I'll go from there.


