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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 10:36 PM
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Default Paint question - orange peel

Anybody know if single stage paint is less prone to orange peel? My 2005 Mustang with color and clear coat has some orange peel right from the factory. Most other new Mustangs I have seen also do. In fact when it had a door slightly damaged the shop had to actually match the paint and the orange peel to get a good match, which they did. My 65 will be painted in the near future with single stage paint, just as original. The shop has quoted me shooting, color sand and buff. I am hoping for a smoother finish than is on my 2005.
Old Mar 23, 2008 | 11:30 PM
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Default RE: Paint question - orange peel

Even with single stage, the body shop should be able to color sand the car and buff it out to a glass like shine. If the initial spray is a quality job with minimal orange peel, then most of it can be sanded and buffed out. The cool thing about clear coat on two-stage paint jobs is the orange peel can also be sanded and buffed out of the clear to leave a 100% orange peel free shine. And you can put multiple coats of clear on to sand out where as with a single stage you are kind of stuck with what you got, so you just got to hope that the initial spray was good with little orange peel that can later be buffed out.

hope this helps Jim! I'm sure others know more than me...
Old Mar 24, 2008 | 12:14 AM
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+!,,, except that most any paint can be color sanded as long as it is not single stage metallic paint...

If the shop quoted color sanding and buffing, depending on how much you are paying, you could end up with aperfect paint job, even if there is orange peel upon the initial spray...

You can color sand your late model Mustang also...

In my experience, clear coat (2 stage)has beena little more subject to orange peel than single stage, but neither is exempt...
Old Mar 24, 2008 | 12:22 AM
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Default RE: Paint question - orange peel

A good painter should be able to spray with little orange peel in the first place. Multiple variables affect orange peel, including type of paint, type and quantityof reducer/activator, gun setup, and how fast the gun is moving. I've seen some awesome single stage paint jobs.
Old Mar 24, 2008 | 12:33 AM
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ORIGINAL: Starfury

Multiple variables affect orange peel, including type of paint, type and quantityof reducer/activator, gun setup, and how fast the gun is moving,
... temperature, humidity, barometric pressure, sun spot activity, global warming, what the painter had for breakfast, (gas), and how the painter holds his mouth, (gas again),,

IMO orange peel can be minimized by using good procedure, but the chance of having it happen will not be eliminated.... no matter how good the painter!
Old Mar 24, 2008 | 01:59 AM
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Most new cars have orange peel since there painted by a robot jdm is right it can happen but if your good its less likely and is fixable.
Old Mar 24, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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Most new cars have orange peel since there painted by a robot jdm is right it can happen but if your good its less likely and is fixable.
Kind of what I was thinking. This same shop did some painting on a Cherokee I have with no orange peel and their paint matched exactly, with no orange peel. I think they intentionally put the orange peel in the 2005 repair to match the rest of the car. Paint work on both vehicles was pretty much a perfect match in color and texture...foreach particular vehicle.
Old Mar 24, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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Good painters know the difference. Just make sure you guys are good talk to them about what you expect from them.
As far as new cars I have a fender off my 66 i painted black about 6 yrs ago just to get an idea with, That looks better than the black on my 07 DTS. The caddy has factory orange peel too. lol
Old Mar 24, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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Default RE: Paint question - orange peel

1st off all the variable talked about above temp humidity etc go along with orange peel. but what alot of people dont understand orange peel actually aids in durability to a certain extent. theres a big difference in between dryspray and orange peel. plus if you get some scratches it allows you to wet sand and buff later down the road. when doing repairs you do want to match the orang peel effect if you can.


the one thing about the new mustangs that aggravate me paint wise is the gt500, and the optional dealer installed stripes with the orange peel and the vynil laid down over it. it just doesnt look good thru the stripes[:'(]
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