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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 06:38 AM
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What about the lincoln versailles there rear disc i know there a 9 inch but which bearing does it use ?
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:05 AM
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I personally think the MarkVII is going to be the easiest one for you to do if you choose to, that or the kit that Kalli got which you can get off of ebay. Here, I found a link for it..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/9-FOR...spagenameZWDVW

Mine didnt come in a kit so I had to piece it together for the MarkVII. I could have gotten stuff locally and been cheaper, but I got off the internet for other reasons. I guess I have about 385$ worth of parts.

They are huge though, 11.25" rotor
Old Jun 21, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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Yes, Explorer discs are big bearing, and I belielve the Crown Vic's are too.

Some say the ford explorer rear disc will work i don't know how true that is.Have you gave mustangsteve a look or http://www.ultrastang.com/Index.asp
His brackets are expensive! 150$, I think not...

I am currently doing a MarkVII conversion which I hope to finish soon (if my freakin bearing retainers ever get here!). JamesW has a write up on his website.
Explorer rear discs fit Ford 9-inch large bearing rear ends with the "Torino-style" housing ends (and not the Ford 9-inch old-style large bearing housing ends). The Crown Vic rear discs will fit Ford 8- & 9-inch rears with small axle bearings. In either case, you will need spacers to set the depth of the axles relative to thecast caliper (C-V or Explorer) anchor brackets, and you will need rotor centering rings to take up the gap between the large center hole of the rotorsto the outer diameter of the axle's center register.

There are various suppliers of adapter brackets to adapt a variety of rear discs to the older Mustangs and related Ford rear ends, and prices range accordingly. Some of the brackets are really cheap, but a lot of that has to do with the fact they are a weld-on bracket. That's fine if you are never going to change brake systems outat some point in the future, but if you did decide to go with something else later on, it's going to be a lotmoretrouble to remove them vs. a bolt-on setup.

The cheaper(as well as some of the more expensive) setups also have no means to mount the factory splash shields, don't offer a means to anchor the parking brake cables, and don't come with machined rotor centering rings to name a few relative points to such a swap. The setups I engineered does all this.

As an individual, you may (or may not), be able to produce an adaptive solution cheaper than what I offer but I don't discourage anyone from designing/making their own setup. An individual making a one-off set of brackets may(or may not) be cheaper to produce than buying a set of brackets that have already been designed to bolt right on, but when you are having a large quantity of 25-50 sets of brackets made at a time, the cost gets expensive in a hurry.

You also have to take into consideration that the initial brake components, to develop and produce the prototype brackets with, had to be purchased (that came out of my pocket), I also had to buy all the grade-8 fasteners, mechanical tubing that I made the spacers from, purchase the steel to make the (6) bracket pieces from, have them cut on the water jet by a professional machine shop, and have them machine the aluminum rotor centering rings, etc. That's more money I had to pay up front to cover materials, labor/machine shop fees, miscellaneous parts, and the investment of my time in coming up with my adaptation of the Mk VII rearbrackets I produce.

I see other rear disc brake bracket manufacturers/suppliers (offered by both professional companies& private individuals), and I know in the case of the SN95 brackets I have, they are the leastexpensive (compared to the other three producers), yet mine offer more optional features than any of the rest. So, I would say that the price I have is more than reasonable for the time, effort, and thought that was put into producing and manufacturing them to take the guesswork out for the end-users who choose to use what I have to offer compared to my competition.

If the write up by JamesW is what I think it is, then that's a Mk VII rear disc conversion he did using the brackets he bought from me.


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