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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 12:51 AM
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Question 93 mini starter issue

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I have the 93 mini starter on my t5 and it works great most of the time.

Sometimes (only on restarts within 1.5 hrs of shutdown) it appears to do nothing.

I turn the key and jack sh!# happens at the starter but everything else is working. the Accs power off like normal but it wont kick the engine over. The battery is good im getting just over 14V charge and my gauge indicates about 12.5 to 13V on restarts.

If I keep trying it eventually starts. I might have to cycle the key from off to start 1 to 15 times but it eventually works. When it does kick over it kicks over strong like when its cold. Sometimes holding the key to the start position for a few seconds will also cause it to kick over.

Also running a heat shield that made no noticeable difference.

Never had issues with my old clunky starter do these mini starters not develop the torque? its a NAPA rebuilt...is that the problem?

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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 09:55 AM
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How is it wired up???
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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Your describing the way a solenoid or ign switch fails or an internal wiring issue within the starter. It could also be excessive voltage drop due to loose cables (conections loosen with heat)
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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Does the starter solenoid click when you turn the key? If so I would check the wiring from the solenoid to the starter. If it doesn't click check the wiring from the battery and ignition to the solenoid.
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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Sounds like a solonoid problem Gun. Have you tried swapping starters?
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by REAVER117
Does the starter solenoid click when you turn the key? If so I would check the wiring from the solenoid to the starter. If it doesn't click check the wiring from the battery and ignition to the solenoid.
The solonoid is on the starter on the 93 starter, of course, you can run dual solonoids (stock fender mounted one and the one on the starter), how is your's set up gun?
Old Aug 16, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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I have it set up as follows:

The + lead from the battery runs directly to the starter
The solenoid trigger wire is hooked into the old "S" wire off the old starter solenoid which has been removed. This S wire hooked to the S tab on the old stater solenoid...I assume it stands for starter because it is only hot when the key is in the Start position.

I dont know if the starter solenoid clicks when its not working...I can never hear it.

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Old Aug 17, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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Okay so does that sound like it hooked up right?...IS it just the starter?

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Old Aug 17, 2008 | 05:02 PM
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Gonna be the solenoid at the starter, or the ign switch. One of them is just getting old. I would lean towards starter solenoid. Next time it happens, get a long piece of wire and run it from the battery to the S wire terminal. If it jumps immediately, it's a problem before the starter. When it does jump, go back in the car and try it again, see if anything changes.If it doesn't work still, then you know for sure it's the wiring to the starter, back.
Old Aug 17, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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alright thanks.

I wonder what the warranty is on that starter..... more than a month? I wonder where the receipt is?

Grin n' bear it time

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