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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 01:27 AM
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hey, so ive been considering header options, basicly i think i want a set of tri Ys bolted to a set of GT40 heads, when i can find a pair :/... I have some biker friends and quite a few of them have wrapped thier pipes with that kevlar stuff to control the heat. i sorta was considering this cuz im a poor college student, and ceramic headers are always a little on the $$ side. I realize they could get all nasty crud and stuff, but hey, they're washable!

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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 02:14 AM
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auto zone carries wrap, id check with summot or jegs ive never used any b4
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 02:15 AM
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yeah, its pretty easy to find, im just wondering if anyone knows much about it, loved it hated it or somthing
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 02:39 AM
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id thik my opinion would be based on if i had an oil leak or not :P

the wraps do void header warranty though iirc
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 06:27 AM
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from what i seen wraps hold water and make the pipes rust faster.The reason v twin guys like me wrap the exhaust is to keep from burning your legs on the pipes which is not fun.Even wrapped there still hot tho.
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 06:34 AM
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the wrap is very effective at keeping heat in the pipes and it can help your oil to cool quicker after a few laps of the track too. No real performance gains IMO.

plus - cheaper than coating

minus - will cause the headers to rust quicker due to condensation between the pipe and the wrap. But, hey we're talking over a period of years.

I'm curious as to why would you want to do it? I've been away a while. Have you built a stinking hot motor?? :P

not hard to do but its a little bit of a pita to do it well - you need the pipes out of the car and even then its hard to make it neat where they join.
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 08:24 AM
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+1 on the rust. I have thought about putting them on, but it is going to hold water and cause rust. Great for racing, but not great for a street car.
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 08:47 AM
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I don't know about all this rust talk. When the car is fired up, the heat will evaporate any moisture that may be soaked into the wrap.

I had my last set of headers, Flowtechs, wrapped for about 6 or 8 years on my fastback which was my daily driver at the time and it made a world of difference in reducing underhood heat. You could actually lay your hand on the headers and they were just mildly warm. Great for working on a hot engine.

When I did the engine swap and pulled the headers off, the wrap was starting to disentigrate a bit but the headers were still solid. I still have them hanging on the side of my barn waiting for the next project.

+1 on taking them out of the car to wrap unless you want it to look like complete ***.

I have nothing bad to say about header wrap other than you gotta watch for oil leaking onto them. I used brake cleaner to blast the oil out of the wrap whenever I would get oil on them and that seemed to work just fine.

My JBA shortys that I have on there now are too pretty to cover up, plus it is no longer my daily driver.

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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 08:51 AM
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+1 i dont see how they will rust faster cause the heat from the engine in the pipes should evaporate it...
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 09:25 AM
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effect of wrapping headers:
combusted gasses leave the chamber , they start to cool down. as they cool , they lose velocity and the scavenging effect is reduced. if the velocity of the gasses inside the pipes is kept as high as possible the net effect will be a greater velocity, greater pressure drop in the system and a higher efficiency
all in all it is all about reducing the pressure in the exhaust system to gain better efficiency/performance

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