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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 11:10 PM
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Can I use a rack and pinion out of a 77 mustang 2 under my 67 coupe, and if I can what kind of modifications are needed?
Old Dec 29, 2009 | 11:57 PM
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I doubt you can. You would need to check the sweep for both systems and the size of the tie rod ends. You have to figure out how and whereto mount it and connect it to the steering column. I hope you have a killer set of tools and some mad skills. You're gonna need'em.

Look at a unisteer manual rack and pinion unit for a low cost kit.
Old Dec 30, 2009 | 12:22 AM
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that unisteer unit has no power assist right?
Old Dec 30, 2009 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BeastMachine67
that unisteer unit has no power assist right?
They make both manual and power racks
Old Dec 30, 2009 | 02:36 AM
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Pretty much all the ford R&P setups are about the same from what I've seen. Remanufactured units made by Atsco (for example) can be purchased through AutoZone for 165.00 through 225.00. Less about 75.00 if you have a core to exchange. Checkout Part# 6418 or 6491 for examples. If your looking for power then your also looking at a power steering pump, pulleys, fluid reservoir, hoses and fittings.

In order to mount them will take a lot of custom fabrication work. You can weld and have a good bit of welding experience right? It could be done. Check out other units like the Unisteer setup and brackets used. Something like this for example.
Old Dec 30, 2009 | 04:07 AM
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Unless your trying to swap in a larger motor or a MOD motor, I wouldn't waste my time on rack an pinion. Its a better option to just rebuild and upgrade the factory setup.
Old Dec 30, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by alexander67
Can I use a rack and pinion out of a 77 mustang 2 under my 67 coupe, and if I can what kind of modifications are needed?
The answer is no and yes.

NO - You can't just mount a 77 mustang rack into a 67 because the 77 mustang is s "front steer" rack and the 67 is a rear steer car. What this means is that the tie rods attach to the spindle behind the axle on the 67 and in front on the 77. You would need different spindles, a way to mount the rack, would have to rig up tie rods, get a rear sump oil pan.....

YES - All of it has already been figuured out and there arre kits for it. The 77 mustang is the Mustang II, so it is all of the Mustang II suspension kits you read about. Like this one:
http://www.heidts.com/mustang_ii_complete_package.html
Old Dec 30, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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Just remembered.. someone here did post photos of them rigging up a R&P setup. Made custom brackets which got mounted to the bottom of the front frame rails behind the wheels.

Might want to search for that thread.
Old Dec 30, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Adrenolin
Just remembered.. someone here did post photos of them rigging up a R&P setup. Made custom brackets which got mounted to the bottom of the front frame rails behind the wheels.

Might want to search for that thread.
That was me. Here is the link. I haven't had time to finish it because other things keep getting in the way. I used a GM J-car rack bought at the slavage yard. I had an interference problem with the header, but made a new bracket and all is good now, but I still have stuff to finish on it before it is done. Whenever I get it done I plan to update that thread to show enough details that someone could duplicate it. At their own risk of course.
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