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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 01:08 AM
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I know the euro fords had a few rwd ones years ago but unsure on the trans they used.
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 04:03 AM
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Hi Andrew and the all of you .

Yes Andrew in the past until the early 90s few Ford model in europe were RWD , The Sierra was either RWD or 4WD , the 4WD was also possible to purchase as Station Wagon with 2 litre engine ( 122 cu in ) 2.3 litre (140 cu in ) and 2.9 V6 (177 cu in ) the latter was available also tuned up by cosworth Up to 250 HP , after that there was the 2.0 litre Turbo Cosworth a sporty version that was available to the pubblic with 201 HP but up to 450 HP tuned up heiter tuned up by customer or tuned by racing teams , the turbo as well was either 2 WD ( from this one they are looking for the box ) or 4WD in the later version , after that the Sierra was substitute by the Escort that was only 4WD in the 2.0 litre cosworth version due to the fact that originally was Front WD .
Other than the Sierra there was the Granada that was RWD
the flagship of ford at the time with almost the same line of engine describe above and i cannot recall a Granada 4WD , instead the Sierra in more economic version was available also with 1.6 l , 1.8 l engine ( 98 ncu in ) (110 cu in ) but only on 2 WD , i will not mention the Diesel engines because i' ve an avversion toward them i like diesel engine to do their job where suppose to do their job .
After that the Granada was substitute by the Skorpio and honest i don't know much about it i recall the same engine lineup as the Sierra and Granada , the Skorpio was sold up the late 90s .

Anyway i 'm waiting now to get all the number of the box from the mustang and i'll post them here and we'll see what is possible to do with that car , that 10 MPG then are very steep need to be look into as well.

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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 04:36 PM
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^coloradoblues: Are your friends doing this swap to increase MPG? If so, that does seem steep. Are you sure it’s not 10 Kilometers per liter? if so, my math tells me that the car would be getting around 24 mpg which isn't bad. Doesn't Ireland use the metric system?


If it is 10 mpg, can you tell us more about the engine? You said it was a Windsor... what size? Do you know what's done to the engine? I if it's getting 10 mpg, something has been done to the engine or the car has 411 rear gears. Or the engine isn't tuned right.

On that note, there are ways to get better MPG out of the car and the folks on this forum should be able to give you some good tips if you supply us with some more information on the specs of the car.
Old Jan 16, 2011 | 05:29 AM
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Hi Stangatic

It's right 10 mpg , i know is lorry fuel consumption not a car !!! , 3 or 4 years ago Ireland swap from imperial to metric sistem but on fuel consumption we still here to understand better mpg and not km/l .
Right now i can tell you that is a 351 winsor engine any other detail i need to ask as soon as i get in touch again also to get the box number identification .
One thing that i know is that the car at 60 miles per hour revs above 3000 ... I had in the past a volvo 760 wagon with a 2.3 l turbo engine with 3 gears auto and overdrive and at 80 m ph he was doing less that 2000 rev or just about , now for a V8 i believe is a bit high that at 60 does 3000 rev ...but as i said i'm not very experienced on these engines ...

I'll let you know as soon as i get in touch with him .

have nice day
Old Jan 16, 2011 | 11:02 AM
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3000 rpm @ 60 mph is turning quite a bit faster than necessary - I'm thinking that the differential gear ratio is something like 3.50:1.

Be careful exactly which transmission - IIRC there are several Tremec 5 speed transmissions that carry the TR3550 designation and several different T5's as well. Gear ratios and torque capacity can vary widely.

Adapting a GM transmission (don't know which one) would probably involve modifying the input shaft somehow. Just for starters, I would not expect them to use the same pilot bushing/bearing diameter or depth. Tranny case to bellhousing bolt pattern, etc, etc. The clutch disc is the easy part.


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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 04:43 AM
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Thanks Norm

Any piece of information is very helpfull , I'm still waiting for all the info regarding the box and engine.

I don't hear from my friend from quite a while right now , I hope he din't get annoied with the car and dumped it under a bridge in that case i only need to find from which bridge and rescue it ...

All the best
Old Jan 18, 2011 | 06:25 AM
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Talk to KEISLER on here see how much to ship you a trans.Or look on there site http://keislerauto.com/vmchk/ford/mu...page_tabs.html
Old Jan 18, 2011 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by andrewmp6
Talk to KEISLER on here see how much to ship you a trans.Or look on there site http://keislerauto.com/vmchk/ford/mu...page_tabs.html
Thanks for the props!

We have complete RS400 PerfectFit kits with driveshaft, crossmember, and all the parts to swap from 4-speed for $2295. And we have complete swaps from automatic as well (bell, clutch, flywheel, - EVERYTHING).

And for those who like to stay automatic, we have AODE and 4R70W with standalone controller kits starting at $600 for the controller and harness - easy 4-wire plug and play!
Old Jan 19, 2011 | 01:40 PM
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WOW! I wish people would read through the thread before you write something...... The car is an automatic. Unless the auto in it has been swapped for a AODE, it's a 3 speed auto; which would mean that the car would be running probably 3:90- 4:11 rear gears (also need to consider tire size) to be turning 3000rpm at 60 mph.

Keisler- Great advertisement! I assume to swap the auto to a 5 speed that package would probably cost north of $3300 not including about $300+ to ship, right?


^coloradoblues: If your friend does not have the money, he could always swap out the rear for 3:00 - 3:50 and should be able to see a noticeable mpg gain. However, he/you will notice a reduce in the seat of your pants feel when stepping on it.
Old Jan 19, 2011 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Stangatic
WOW! I wish people would read through the thread before you write something...... The car is an automatic. Unless the auto in it has been swapped for a AODE, it's a 3 speed auto; which would mean that the car would be running probably 3:90- 4:11 rear gears (also need to consider tire size) to be turning 3000rpm at 60 mph.
Ummm, I did do a little background work, using a spreadsheet that already worked out speeds in gears for typical diameter tires.

I just did a little more, using the revs/mile of a 195/70-14 (about as close to OE tire sizing as you can get without shopping at Coker Tire).

3000 rpm divided by 841 revs/mile = your axle gears (the solution is left to the reader). Slip across the non lockup torque converter would cause the rpms to be higher than 3000, as described. For now, I'm going with 3.50, 3.55, or possibly 3.70.


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