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Old 01-21-2011, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by F15Falcon
Hey EZ, I noticed that the bolts holding the plates to the shock towers are stainless steels button head screws, did you know that stainless steel bolts are grade 2 at best? I would hate for the heads of the bolts to pop off.
Totallystainless.com sells Grade 8 ARP stainless steel bolts.
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mr_velocity
Totallystainless.com sells Grade 8 ARP stainless steel bolts.
Sweet! Those will look better Than the gold ones in the engine bay.
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Old 01-26-2011, 03:27 PM
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Little upadate...I finished putting everything together And got the car on the ground...ride height was a touch higher so I had to order one size smaller shock and springs.
These adjustable QA1s are sweet. you can reach in without jacking the car up and give the shock a couple clicks and make a huge difference in the stiffness of the ride. Im going to order a pair for the rear.
once I get these shocks in I can mount them up and head down to the alignment shop!
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Old 01-26-2011, 04:54 PM
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With all the tunability you have. I'm surprised you don't DIY align.
Your shop must be cheap.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:55 PM
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I hope they

(a) know what they're doing with an older car with custom suspension parts

(b) will align to specs suited to those new parts and not just "put it somewhere in the green for OE". Your specs, if you've got a good idea where to start.


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Old 01-26-2011, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Norm Peterson
I hope they

(a) know what they're doing with an older car with custom suspension parts

(b) will align to specs suited to those new parts and not just "put it somewhere in the green for OE". Your specs, if you've got a good idea where to start.


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I paid for one a lifetime alignment at a local shop(idiots) for $30 extra. Ill be there helping with the alignment so almost the same as if I did it. I suppose I could do it myself with the wheels off and use a angle finder on the discs to find camber. Toe in is easy but what about caster?
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If you cleaned up verticle side of spindle, you can measure caster directly.

Otherwise you need a DIY turntable and a simple calculation.

Digital angle finder works nice on rotor.
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are you sure the vertical side of the of the spindle will give you the same angle as the measurement between ball joints?
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Old 01-26-2011, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 001mustang
I have an alignment suggestion.

On my driver side spindle I can get a Caster reading directly on spindle arm using magnetic digital angle finder.

The passenger spindle is to rough to get a good caster reading.

If I ever have spindles out I will clean up the the flat verticle surface.

That way one can get an accurate caster reading from the spindle and an accurate camber reading from rotor while under car.
Easier to verify w/ spindle out of car. On your coilover may be able to verify w/ spindle on car?

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Old 01-27-2011, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by eZ
I suppose I could do it myself with the wheels off and use a angle finder on the discs to find camber. Toe in is easy but what about caster?
Camber and caster can be done with your angle finder, and both can be done directly off your wheels, assuming that they're not dinged and are reasonably true. I can see a bit of difficulty getting the suspension properly loaded while on jackstands so that the cambers that you then measure/set bears any resemblance to what the wheels will see when you're driving the car.

You have to do a little math to obtain a caster value. What you do is measure camber with the wheels turned some known angle, and then re-measure the camber with the wheels turned an equal amount the other way.

Caster = [some factor] x [the algebraic difference in the camber measurements]

That factor depends on the angle that you turned the wheels. Pretty closely, it's equal to 1 divided by two times the sine of the angle steered.

1.0 @ 30°
1.5 @ 20°
2.0 @ 14.5°

So if you steer the left front wheel to the left 20° and get +1.4° camber, then steer it 20° right and get -0.6° camber, your caster would be 1.5 x (1.4 - (-0.6)) = +3.0°. Since it is possible to have negative caster, I think you want to steer the left wheel left first, and steer the right wheel right first when doing that side to help keep things straight.

I have a write-up about DIY alignment if you're interested.


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