Wow, now I remember why I quit posting on this forum. Congrads, you now have been promoted to the "know it all in chief", knock yourself out.

 

The OP did ask 'Any other tips that you guys can supply would be great as I have never replace this stuff before.' and that's what he's been provided. If you've ever driven a bone stock car with rubber spring perches which induce bind into the suspension movement and standard UCA mount you would feel the difference and consider them essential upgrades.

Just holding the old rubber perches in your hand and trying to move them as the suspension does with each bump and change in road condition then spinning the rollers turns a light on in your head. Even for a weekend driver just crossing railroad tracks is a big diffrerence as the front no longer hops with roller perches, the suspension reacts more immediate to the change and the tire stays in contact with the road surface. The shelby drop improves tire surface contact also and is a much better alignment for our new tires vs. the original bial plys.

If you ever get a chance drive a car with and without both and you'll feel the difference. 'Essential' is the term Evil used because in his experience it is an essential upgrade for any car he would rebuild, that's his opinion which is what everyone who posts is asking for. If the OP is taking the suspension off it's something he needs to know to decide before doing it twice.

To the OP, what are your intentions for the cars use? weekends only, cruiser, DD, weekend warrior with some track time?
Jon

 

Im sorry if i made people mad. But to call spring perches and the shelby drop essential is some very strong verbage. The OP is asking for basic tips on how to replace parts that he has no experience with. To call these mods essential puts these into the same catagory as replacing a worn tie-rod, making sure all the nuts and bolts are torqued and getting an alinment afterwards. Im not saying these mods are a waste but i am saying that your car will be just fine without them.

To call them essential to somebody at square one trying to figure out how to do the basics of suspension work is way to strong of verbage. He could feel that he has to do them or bad things will happen to his car. That is just not the case because his car will be perfectly safe to drive stock. What it should be is that he reads up on the mods and if he feels they are right for him then he should do them.

Again im sorry if i mad people mad but i still stand by these mods not being essential.

 

Maybe those mods aren't mechanically essential to the barest minumum function of the car. But the improvement is worthwhile, and would go toward putting a 45+ year old car on a more even footing with the rest of the traffic that it's going to be sharing the road with.

I suppose you can still get 6.95-14 bias ply tires without being any worse off in absolute terms than you were back in 1965. Trouble is, you would be worse off in relative terms vs just about everything else on the road. Same deal.

I think the way to look at these two mods is more like when you do a clutch replacement job, where you replace the throwout bearing and the pilot bushing/bearing while the easy opportunity has presented itself.

The only reason that I can think of for actively avoiding doing these mods is if the suspension repair/rebuild is part of an original-style restoration for show car purposes. That's a different horse altogether.


Norm

 

I want to chime in here. Ford started out with a bronze bushing and a grease fitting in the roller perches, and after realizing that they were not getting proper maintenance and looking at the cost of manufacture they went to the cheaper rubber unit that worked poorly even when new, then failed,and that was when they were made in the USA.
Roller perches are a great idea, and if you are building a vintage car you should spend the money to make it work properly and safely, at least as well as a 63 falcon with bronze bushing perches.

 

Cool down guys...we all have opinions and that is all they are.
Do what you want with your own car.

 

Thanks guys for all the ideas. My 65 Mustang has an inline 6 and i am just looking to keep things stock because it's just a crusier for me. I was just looking for advice on the actual remove/ install process but thanks for all the other ideas

 

I replaced my front and rear end pieces last year, it had never done anything like that project either. It's a learning experience, it took me 3 days to do the first side and about 3 hours to do the second. I wasted a lot of time and money on pickle forks and separators and must agree completely with the comment about shocking it with a big hammer, and a claw hammer won't cut it.

I didn't perform either of the discussed mods and used a stock type replacement kit from CJ Pony (I did front and rear suspension) and I must say it made a world of improvement over 45 year old worn suspension pieces, it rides like a new car.

 

I've heard the BFH (Big Freaking Hammer) method works well also.

 

Wonso79, here is a link to the thread I wrote on this subject a few years ago. I think it will directly answer your questions.

http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/vi...g-perches.html