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Old Nov 30, 2011 | 06:44 PM
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… and he will weld in some inverted exhaust tube pieces back into the holes.
Not thick enough.
Old Nov 30, 2011 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 2+2GT
Not thick enough.
It will do, not a lot of structure will need to be removed, and the tube, by virtue of it's curved nature (and being fully welded in), will offer more strength than it's thickness might imply.

It's not done yet, but the way I see it in my head it won't cause any problems. It will for sure be stronger than a lot of the rusted out shock towers that are on the road right now.....
Old Dec 1, 2011 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by JMD
My son will be notching the shock towers on his 64 Falcon to clear his HIPPO manifolds later this week.

The notching will be nominal, and he will weld in some inverted exhaust tube pieces back into the holes.

If he does a nice job, I will post up some pictures.
What engine is he installing?..289/302 with hipo manifolds should fit without any issues?
Old Dec 2, 2011 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by frdnut
What engine is he installing?..289/302 with hipo manifolds should fit without any issues?
This is a Falcon, it seems to me that the Falcon Bay is just a little more narrow than the Mustang bay.

They are very close to fitting, but they miss by about 3/16" on the right, and about 1/16" on the left. They are close enough that they will fully bolt on, but the gap at the top of the ports lacks closing by just a little, (no we didn't actually tighten them!). I am pretty sure "non hippo" manifolds would have fit.
Old Dec 2, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JMD
This is a Falcon, it seems to me that the Falcon Bay is just a little more narrow than the Mustang bay.

They are very close to fitting, but they miss by about 3/16" on the right, and about 1/16" on the left. They are close enough that they will fully bolt on, but the gap at the top of the ports lacks closing by just a little, (no we didn't actually tighten them!). I am pretty sure "non hippo" manifolds would have fit.
There were a few 65 K code falcons produced so they should fit unless ford produced a unique exhaust manifold for them..It may also be a motor mount issue..I think the older stud type were a little taller which would raise the engine and give you more clearance with the shock towers...It is common on these old cars for the shock towers to sag in a little over time..I would get a measurement from some other falcon owners and if its sagged get an export brace and monte carlo bar to support the front end..
Old Dec 2, 2011 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by frdnut
There were a few 65 K code falcons produced so they should fit unless ford produced a unique exhaust manifold for them..It may also be a motor mount issue..I think the older stud type were a little taller which would raise the engine and give you more clearance with the shock towers...It is common on these old cars for the shock towers to sag in a little over time..I would get a measurement from some other falcon owners and if its sagged get an export brace and monte carlo bar to support the front end..

The car was a sixer, he installed a 302 with RMP engine mounts with the engine shimmed up 1/2" to provide about 1" between the tie rod and the oil pan.

It has been a while since we worked on the suspension, but it seems to me that the tie rod for a Falcon is about 1" shorter than one for a 64 Mustang. (so the V-8 Mustang suspension parts won't work)

And yea, his car would benefit from both a Monte Carlo Bar and an Export brace and it wouldn't surprise me if the towers have sagged a bit over the decades.
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Originally Posted by JMD
And yea, his car would benefit from both a Monte Carlo Bar and an Export brace and it wouldn't surprise me if the towers have sagged a bit over the decades.
The export brace you can get-

Old Dec 2, 2011 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 2+2GT
The export brace you can get-

I was thinking about something like that and I found this: Maybe Mitch should make something like this:


What do you guys think?

I think we could make one of those for less than $100...
Old Dec 2, 2011 | 10:39 PM
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Jamesw made his own export brace that looked like the tcp one i forgot what he said it cost but it was really cheap.
Old Dec 15, 2011 | 12:20 AM
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Photo as promised...



I think this will clean up pretty good, and shouldn't sacrifice much if any strength.

BTW, I don't know what the hell happened to my photo link of the tubular "export brace" in my previous post.... ?????

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