Long tubes in a 66?
Who all has put long tube headers on a 65 or 66 mustang with a 289? How hard is it to get them to fit? Most headers say they need 4 inches of clearance.. but i can tell by looking at my engine bay that i have no where near that kind of clearance..
FPA has headers that fit up nice and tight so you won't have ground clearance issues. They're also wide enough to fit around my my 4R70W in my 66. Just be prepared to pay.
http://www.fordpowertrain.com/FPAindex/headers1.htm
http://www.fordpowertrain.com/FPAindex/headers1.htm
If you buy headers that are intended for the application you shouldn't need to beat and bang on anything...I have installed 3 different sets of headers on a 66 mustang..Non of them needed any banging and were relatively easy to install....I've never heard of any header claiming they needed four inches of clearance?
Just as a note, I ran long tubes (Caslers, fit was pretty good) on my 289HP for years. Finally got tired of the noise, the constant retightening of the bolts, and especially the waves of heat coming off of them. I switched back to 289HP manifolds, and drove happily for years.
Oh, and I don't know who told you 4" clearance was needed, that's a pure fantasy on any car, headers or not. This is the stone-stock exhaust on a 66 GT350H, and you can see that 1" is a much more reasonable expectation.
Last edited by 2+2GT; Feb 19, 2012 at 09:07 AM.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-FULL-SI...item4601117c2c
These headers say they actually require five inches of clearance. I know they're shortys and it's ebay but this is just an example.
And believe me, i would never take a hammer to the shock tower. this car is my baby lol. Nor would i be willing to bend brand new headers that probably cost several hundred dollars.
These headers say they actually require five inches of clearance. I know they're shortys and it's ebay but this is just an example.
And believe me, i would never take a hammer to the shock tower. this car is my baby lol. Nor would i be willing to bend brand new headers that probably cost several hundred dollars.
In my experience, sometimes headers fit as intended, sometimes not so good. Some headers accept a little "massaging" well, some not so well. Some headers need weekly tightening, some can be bolted up only once.
All of this can be attributed to how much you pay for headers, or sometimes not.... but irregardless of cost considerations, a minimum 3/8" thick flange (at the head) makes a difference.
I have found that (in general) long tube headers work well on stock height cars, and not so well on lowered cars. When the collector is drug across that first speed bump, things change for the worse just about every time, and all of the money, planning, and execution dedicated to making a set of headers fit and function flawlessly goes out the window.....
Sometimes,,, a car needs to be "clearanced" even for manifolds.... My son tried to put "hippo" manifolds on his 64 Falcon, this is how it had to happen. I am pretty sure that his Falcon bay is a little more narrow than the Mustang bay though.

A shock tower can be modified to one degree or another without smashing it with a hammer, or otherwise hacking it up.
All of this can be attributed to how much you pay for headers, or sometimes not.... but irregardless of cost considerations, a minimum 3/8" thick flange (at the head) makes a difference.
I have found that (in general) long tube headers work well on stock height cars, and not so well on lowered cars. When the collector is drug across that first speed bump, things change for the worse just about every time, and all of the money, planning, and execution dedicated to making a set of headers fit and function flawlessly goes out the window.....

Sometimes,,, a car needs to be "clearanced" even for manifolds.... My son tried to put "hippo" manifolds on his 64 Falcon, this is how it had to happen. I am pretty sure that his Falcon bay is a little more narrow than the Mustang bay though.

A shock tower can be modified to one degree or another without smashing it with a hammer, or otherwise hacking it up.
Last edited by JMD; Feb 19, 2012 at 10:22 AM.


