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Old 07-17-2012, 10:28 PM   #1  
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Default 302 crank and rods in a 289? looking for 400+ hp?

Hey everyone! just got another 289 classic! but this time it's a 66.
Plan on a .30over bore

Im looking for 400+ hp high in the powerband

The list:
Hydraulic Roller Lifter Kithttp://www.summitracing.com/parts/CCA-31-1000/
Liftershttp://www.summitracing.com/parts/CCA-851-1/
Intakehttp://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-7121/
Headshttp://www.summitracing.com/parts/RHS-35306-01/
Pistonshttp://www.summitracing.com/parts/SLP-L2482F30/

looking for a forged 302 crank and some 302 rods to toss in her.. and a camshaft.. any ideas? Also Do you think that parts list with shorty headers and a 700+ CFM carb will make it to at least 400HP? with a street driveable camshaft.. lol
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Old 07-18-2012, 12:01 AM   #2  
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If you're only going to 302...why bother? You're really not picking up any noticable power between a 289 and a 302, definitely not enough to justify the cost. If you jump to 331 or 347, that's a different story. The larger cubes will also help provide some streetable torque.

If you're going to spend that kind of money on heads, spend a little more and get something like Edelbrock RPM's or Trick Flow TFS heads. No sense skimping, you'll only regret it later.
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Alright.. but any idea for a roller cam? what lift? ect.. to make at least 400HP and be able to drive on the street alot
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Ford considered the change from 289 to 302 worth 11 hp. Removing the spare tire is probably more effective.

You want over 400 hp from a smallblock but you want it to be a practical driver? Bring money. Basically, you're trying to replicate the BOSS 302.

Ford Racing's M-6007-X302B engine is listed as 345 hp, and costs 7 grand. That's using the E303 roller cam. There are more powerful cams, but they are not what you'd expect to drive often.
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Hi,
I too, hate to be a buzz killer, but, you ain't gitt'in no 400 HP out of a 289/302. Now, as mentioned stroke to 331, add nice TFS/AFR heads (2.02/1.60s, 170/180 runners) , custom cam with .570+ lift, 10.5 CR, a 700'ish CFM carb, TRY's(?) duals, RPM intake, then, you may get close. All the while, it can be a nice street warrior. Right off the launching pad, you're talking $1500+ for the heads and custom valve train, $500 for custom billet roller cam and supporting hardware, $600-800 for custom intake system. This, while doing all of your own blue-print assembly. It's far cheaper and much faster to contact Ford Strokers....IMHO. Happy Motoring!
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351 with edelbrock top end kit,....400 +
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Hm.. will these heads fit on a 1966 289? I'm willing to buy them if they do! Also anyone know of a cheapish 100 or 75 NOS shot kit? I plan on wiring the switch to flip on at full throttle because I'll be using a gear vendors overdrive kit and don't feel like holding one button, steering, semi-auto shifting and hitting the gear vendor shift button at the same time
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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AFR-1402/ Those<--? and will they fit a 67 289?
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Just for some background here, have you ever driven a 400+ hp car? As impressive as the number sounds, one blip of the throttle can seriously kill you.

Listen to Bill Cosby's "200 Miles Per Hour". A classic. A sad footnote, however, is Cosby really did give the car back, and Shelby American did resell it, and the new owner did die in the car.

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