Holley or Edelbrock
Yup, SOS.... Anyhow, here is my $.02. I've used both over the past 35+ years, back when an Edelbrock was just a Carter AFB and I like both. If your car is a daily driver and you don't want to have to adjust it every so often, go with the Edelbrock. If you want the most HP your motor can produce and more tuneability, go Holley. I also prefer the automatic choke on the Holley vs the Edelbrock as the pull-off works much better and it's more adjustable. I also have a soft spot for Autolite 4100's. They are bullet proof and deliver a fair amount of performance. As far as manifolds are concerned, take your choice. In my opinion, any dual plane manifold will work well in a mild street engine that isn't twisted past 5k or so.
More $0.02 - The Autolite 4100 is renowned as a carb. Good as anything, but getting harder to get and pricey. Way to go if you are concours. Holley, Edelbrock (they are Webers by the way), Autolite - to each his personal preference and affordability. I converted my 600 cfm Edelbrock from manual choke to electric. Works like a champ. Right out of the box it was a bit lean (My headers probably did that). I have an exhaust gas analyzer and a little tweaking to the idle mixture brought it right into specs plus the idle is smoooooooooooooth.
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If those of you with Holley carbs would set your timing and valves and distributor curve before starting your engines you will not have backfires through you carbs which is what blows out most power valves.Holley's are fine carbs,but like anything else must be set up properly.A healthy 289 likes 10 to 12 degrees of initial advance with a total advance of 36 to 38 degrees all in by 2500 to 2800 rpm max.With a 600 cfm holley running a 10.5 power valve and vaccum secondaries you will have a smooth running machine. If you have 10.5 or higher compression,solid lifter cam and headers,they actually run very well with a 715 Holley as used on the old Cobra motors. If you are running conservative street motors that rarely see 6000 rpm a 500 cfm carb will suffice,but from 6500 to 8000 rpm on a screaming 289 the extra cfm is where the power is.
I see many people like the holleys more, so i will probably go with the wieland intake, with holley. SO you think that 600 CFM would be ok? im also getting bigger cast iron heads, and cam.
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More $0.02 - The Autolite 4100 is renowned as a carb. Good as anything, but getting harder to get and pricey. Way to go if you are concours. Holley, Edelbrock (they are Webers by the way), Autolite - to each his personal preference and affordability. I converted my 600 cfm Edelbrock from manual choke to electric. Works like a champ. Right out of the box it was a bit lean (My headers probably did that). I have an exhaust gas analyzer and a little tweaking to the idle mixture brought it right into specs plus the idle is smoooooooooooooth.
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More $0.02 - The Autolite 4100 is renowned as a carb. Good as anything, but getting harder to get and pricey. Way to go if you are concours. Holley, Edelbrock (they are Webers by the way), Autolite - to each his personal preference and affordability. I converted my 600 cfm Edelbrock from manual choke to electric. Works like a champ. Right out of the box it was a bit lean (My headers probably did that). I have an exhaust gas analyzer and a little tweaking to the idle mixture brought it right into specs plus the idle is smoooooooooooooth.
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You've never heard of Offenhauser? er offy as usually called. They have been around longer then edelbrock. They are used alot on hot rods. They work very well though.
http://www.taperformance.com/offenhau.htm
http://www.taperformance.com/offenhau.htm
Thank you Shifty101Easy,
Always nice to hear nice comments from other Mustanger's. Looks nice in the car too (I think) especially with the JBA plated headers and aluminum a/c compressor.
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Always nice to hear nice comments from other Mustanger's. Looks nice in the car too (I think) especially with the JBA plated headers and aluminum a/c compressor.
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My $0.02, I run a We... Stealth on my 65 right now, 302, deccent cam, 10.6:1, an Edelbrock 600 right now, just took the Holley 600 vac secondaries off. I all so just took the Edel tourqer 2 off. I have ran both Edel and Holley carbs as well as intakes on it. The performer rpm is fair, I hated the performer[:'(] and the tourquer 2 was actually very impressive for a single plain (small runners I guess). If your around 280-400 HP, from my exp the tourqer 2 is actually a good but less obvious choice, you do loose about 400-600 rpm down low but who here is running a stock converter if not a 5 speed? As for the carbs, I lean toward the Weber/Carter/Edelbrock (they are all the same, just depends on where you buy em). The holley out of the box had a little more bottom end and just a hair more above 6000 than the Edelbrock out of the box but the Edelbrock was noticabley stronger between 2300 and 5200 on the current P.O.S. 302.
The biggest problem with the edelbrock off the shelf is the secondairies, they are like Quadra Junk, mechanical with no accelerator but they have a vacume opperated airdamn to prevent airflow till there is vacume. They want these to open when yuo bolt it on but that's not exactly the best thing unless your carb is smaller than you need (kinda hurts your bottom end from a dead stop). if you don't mind and have the time and the extra 50 bucks for the tune kit, generally increasing the secondaries rods jets and all that good stuff to the next couple of sizes and changing the springs to open the secondairies a tad later, they actually have the same or better acceleration than a holley and require a lot less attention.
Holley's are hands down the way to go for all out race setups but every one I have ever ran, if the weather or humidity changed much you had to adjust it, the Edelbrock didn't care.
If you only run one of those glass fuel filters that every one has used at one time or another, with the plastice white filter, DO NOT use a holley, it will get trash in it and make you walk, the edelbrock could care less, they are MUCH more tolerant of trash than a holley.
Edelbrocks are much less likely to "boil" the fuel than a Holley, the holley uses a some what large flat bottom fuel bowl where the edelbrock uses a deep narrow bowl that absorbs much less radiant heat from the intake, which does get hot.
In short, if you can't tune it buy an edelbrock they are pretty much bolt on and go, if your competent enough and really do understand the venturi pricipal and how a carb actually works (fuel is not sucked out) then either one is an excelt choice IF and ONLY IF you can tune it to your engine.
The BIGGEST problem I have ever seen from a Holley was that some one "knew how to work on it" and got it out of whack.
The biggest problem with the edelbrock off the shelf is the secondairies, they are like Quadra Junk, mechanical with no accelerator but they have a vacume opperated airdamn to prevent airflow till there is vacume. They want these to open when yuo bolt it on but that's not exactly the best thing unless your carb is smaller than you need (kinda hurts your bottom end from a dead stop). if you don't mind and have the time and the extra 50 bucks for the tune kit, generally increasing the secondaries rods jets and all that good stuff to the next couple of sizes and changing the springs to open the secondairies a tad later, they actually have the same or better acceleration than a holley and require a lot less attention.
Holley's are hands down the way to go for all out race setups but every one I have ever ran, if the weather or humidity changed much you had to adjust it, the Edelbrock didn't care.
If you only run one of those glass fuel filters that every one has used at one time or another, with the plastice white filter, DO NOT use a holley, it will get trash in it and make you walk, the edelbrock could care less, they are MUCH more tolerant of trash than a holley.
Edelbrocks are much less likely to "boil" the fuel than a Holley, the holley uses a some what large flat bottom fuel bowl where the edelbrock uses a deep narrow bowl that absorbs much less radiant heat from the intake, which does get hot.
In short, if you can't tune it buy an edelbrock they are pretty much bolt on and go, if your competent enough and really do understand the venturi pricipal and how a carb actually works (fuel is not sucked out) then either one is an excelt choice IF and ONLY IF you can tune it to your engine.
The BIGGEST problem I have ever seen from a Holley was that some one "knew how to work on it" and got it out of whack.
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I see many people like the holleys more, so i will probably go with the wieland intake, with holley. SO you think that 600 CFM would be ok? im also getting bigger cast iron heads, and cam.
I see many people like the holleys more, so i will probably go with the wieland intake, with holley. SO you think that 600 CFM would be ok? im also getting bigger cast iron heads, and cam.


