What does a shift kit do for a aod tanny??
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What does a shift kit do for a aod tanny??
i was thinking about buying a shift kit for my 98 gt stang, its a automatic aod tranny but what would this do for my automatic tranny? and would it make a difference? and which should i go with?
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RE: What does a shift kit do for a aod tanny??
Basically, with a shift kit you are altering the shifting characteristics of a tranny. It will essentially firm up your shifts and make the shifts faster and stronger. The idea is that the less time it takes the trans to shift, the less time the clutches spend slipping and generating heat, which can kill an automatic transmission. If done right, they can help improve both the shift quality and life of the trans.
I have a shift kit in my car. If I'm in first gear with WOT, it will hold first until about 5200 RPM. Then second gear kicks in and the tires "bark" or "chirp" (depeding on where you call it where you live) as is quickly and firmly shifts into second gear. Then it holds second until the RPMs get around 5200 or so before firmly and quickly shifting into 3rd. You can really feel the difference and it can literally bump you back in your seat when it shifts at WOT. Of course, under normal driving conditions it still firms them up but you don't feel it as much.
As far as pushing a button to shift, you may be thinking of something like a ratchet shifter. This shifter here may allow you to do what it is you are trying to do... or at least what I think you are trying to do. You don't push a button to shift, but you can start out in first, then hammer it forward to shift to second, then hammer it forward it again into third. You don't have to worry about pressing a button or skipping over 2 and landing in D by accident, etc. Of course, if you want an even better feel, you would have to get those along with a manual valve body. Then you'll basically have a clutchess manual.
I have a shift kit in my car. If I'm in first gear with WOT, it will hold first until about 5200 RPM. Then second gear kicks in and the tires "bark" or "chirp" (depeding on where you call it where you live) as is quickly and firmly shifts into second gear. Then it holds second until the RPMs get around 5200 or so before firmly and quickly shifting into 3rd. You can really feel the difference and it can literally bump you back in your seat when it shifts at WOT. Of course, under normal driving conditions it still firms them up but you don't feel it as much.
As far as pushing a button to shift, you may be thinking of something like a ratchet shifter. This shifter here may allow you to do what it is you are trying to do... or at least what I think you are trying to do. You don't push a button to shift, but you can start out in first, then hammer it forward to shift to second, then hammer it forward it again into third. You don't have to worry about pressing a button or skipping over 2 and landing in D by accident, etc. Of course, if you want an even better feel, you would have to get those along with a manual valve body. Then you'll basically have a clutchess manual.
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RE: What does a shift kit do for a aod tanny??
hey you really sound like you know what your talking about, Im going to go with your advice, what do you think i should do? and it always maxes out at i higher rpm? wont that put wear on your motor? and when you got yours what did you think of it, and what did you think of before and after esults, sorry about the 200 questions but thankyou for your help
ORIGINAL: samseed101
Basically, with a shift kit you are altering the shifting characteristics of a tranny. It will essentially firm up your shifts and make the shifts faster and stronger. The idea is that the less time it takes the trans to shift, the less time the clutches spend slipping and generating heat, which can kill an automatic transmission. If done right, they can help improve both the shift quality and life of the trans.
I have a shift kit in my car. If I'm in first gear with WOT, it will hold first until about 5200 RPM. Then second gear kicks in and the tires "bark" or "chirp" (depeding on where you call it where you live) as is quickly and firmly shifts into second gear. Then it holds second until the RPMs get around 5200 or so before firmly and quickly shifting into 3rd. You can really feel the difference and it can literally bump you back in your seat when it shifts at WOT. Of course, under normal driving conditions it still firms them up but you don't feel it as much.
As far as pushing a button to shift, you may be thinking of something like a ratchet shifter. This shifter here may allow you to do what it is you are trying to do... or at least what I think you are trying to do. You don't push a button to shift, but you can start out in first, then hammer it forward to shift to second, then hammer it forward it again into third. You don't have to worry about pressing a button or skipping over 2 and landing in D by accident, etc. Of course, if you want an even better feel, you would have to get those along with a manual valve body. Then you'll basically have a clutchess manual.
Basically, with a shift kit you are altering the shifting characteristics of a tranny. It will essentially firm up your shifts and make the shifts faster and stronger. The idea is that the less time it takes the trans to shift, the less time the clutches spend slipping and generating heat, which can kill an automatic transmission. If done right, they can help improve both the shift quality and life of the trans.
I have a shift kit in my car. If I'm in first gear with WOT, it will hold first until about 5200 RPM. Then second gear kicks in and the tires "bark" or "chirp" (depeding on where you call it where you live) as is quickly and firmly shifts into second gear. Then it holds second until the RPMs get around 5200 or so before firmly and quickly shifting into 3rd. You can really feel the difference and it can literally bump you back in your seat when it shifts at WOT. Of course, under normal driving conditions it still firms them up but you don't feel it as much.
As far as pushing a button to shift, you may be thinking of something like a ratchet shifter. This shifter here may allow you to do what it is you are trying to do... or at least what I think you are trying to do. You don't push a button to shift, but you can start out in first, then hammer it forward to shift to second, then hammer it forward it again into third. You don't have to worry about pressing a button or skipping over 2 and landing in D by accident, etc. Of course, if you want an even better feel, you would have to get those along with a manual valve body. Then you'll basically have a clutchess manual.
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RE: What does a shift kit do for a aod tanny??
Well I'm no expert by any means. I'm sure there are people out there that know an ****load more about them than I do. But I have dealt with my fair share of kits.
Personally, I would go for the shift kit. It makes the car feel completely different and makes it feel more powerful. It's a great feeling when you go from a standard AOD / AODE to one with a shift kit that feels like it punches or hits you when it shifts at WOT.
As far as the higher RPMs and shifting... if you drive normally then it won't shift as firm or as hard. It also will shift a lot sooner so you will not notice too much of a difference. You can still feel it, but nothing like you do at WOT. Basically, the more open the throttle,the firmer the shifts. And if you keep it open, it will wait a lot longer to shift into the next gear. A lot of times between first and second the tires will actually bark as it shifts. I wouldn't really worry about it killing your engine. Just be wary of the redline and you should be okay. As another sidenote... although the shift kits will allow you to shift into OD at any RPM... I highly advise that you DON'T. Many people treat OD as if it's just another gear and that's when the trouble starts. WOT shifts into OD can kill OD bands...even the kevlar ones.
As far as the before and after results... I'm sure you will be pleased with the results. Hard to explain... it just feels more powerful. But when you have the throttle wide open and you feel that first shift from 1 to 2, you'll know what I mean.
As far as shifting on your own, that goes back to what I said about ratchet shifters. You CAN do it with the stock one as well, but it's a bit harder because you can slip past the gear you want by accident. My ratchet shifter is finally on the way now that I got sick of using the stock shifter. But with ratchets (or stock) you cna go either way with or without the shift kit. You can either put it in D or drive normally, or you cna shift manually through the gears. The shift kit wouldn't affect your ability to do that. However, if you want total control and you still want an AOD / AODE, then I recommend getting a manual valve body.
But either way (with stock shofter or with ratchet... with or without shift kit) you can downshift at will. Just be careful oif that redline!!
Personally, I would go for the shift kit. It makes the car feel completely different and makes it feel more powerful. It's a great feeling when you go from a standard AOD / AODE to one with a shift kit that feels like it punches or hits you when it shifts at WOT.
As far as the higher RPMs and shifting... if you drive normally then it won't shift as firm or as hard. It also will shift a lot sooner so you will not notice too much of a difference. You can still feel it, but nothing like you do at WOT. Basically, the more open the throttle,the firmer the shifts. And if you keep it open, it will wait a lot longer to shift into the next gear. A lot of times between first and second the tires will actually bark as it shifts. I wouldn't really worry about it killing your engine. Just be wary of the redline and you should be okay. As another sidenote... although the shift kits will allow you to shift into OD at any RPM... I highly advise that you DON'T. Many people treat OD as if it's just another gear and that's when the trouble starts. WOT shifts into OD can kill OD bands...even the kevlar ones.
As far as the before and after results... I'm sure you will be pleased with the results. Hard to explain... it just feels more powerful. But when you have the throttle wide open and you feel that first shift from 1 to 2, you'll know what I mean.
As far as shifting on your own, that goes back to what I said about ratchet shifters. You CAN do it with the stock one as well, but it's a bit harder because you can slip past the gear you want by accident. My ratchet shifter is finally on the way now that I got sick of using the stock shifter. But with ratchets (or stock) you cna go either way with or without the shift kit. You can either put it in D or drive normally, or you cna shift manually through the gears. The shift kit wouldn't affect your ability to do that. However, if you want total control and you still want an AOD / AODE, then I recommend getting a manual valve body.
But either way (with stock shofter or with ratchet... with or without shift kit) you can downshift at will. Just be careful oif that redline!!
ORIGINAL: Anthonyandmarisol
hey you really sound like you know what your talking about, Im going to go with your advice, what do you think i should do? and it always maxes out at i higher rpm? wont that put wear on your motor? and when you got yours what did you think of it, and what did you think of before and after esults, sorry about the 200 questions but thankyou for your help
hey you really sound like you know what your talking about, Im going to go with your advice, what do you think i should do? and it always maxes out at i higher rpm? wont that put wear on your motor? and when you got yours what did you think of it, and what did you think of before and after esults, sorry about the 200 questions but thankyou for your help
ORIGINAL: samseed101
Basically, with a shift kit you are altering the shifting characteristics of a tranny. It will essentially firm up your shifts and make the shifts faster and stronger. The idea is that the less time it takes the trans to shift, the less time the clutches spend slipping and generating heat, which can kill an automatic transmission. If done right, they can help improve both the shift quality and life of the trans.
I have a shift kit in my car. If I'm in first gear with WOT, it will hold first until about 5200 RPM. Then second gear kicks in and the tires "bark" or "chirp" (depeding on where you call it where you live) as is quickly and firmly shifts into second gear. Then it holds second until the RPMs get around 5200 or so before firmly and quickly shifting into 3rd. You can really feel the difference and it can literally bump you back in your seat when it shifts at WOT. Of course, under normal driving conditions it still firms them up but you don't feel it as much.
As far as pushing a button to shift, you may be thinking of something like a ratchet shifter. This shifter here may allow you to do what it is you are trying to do... or at least what I think you are trying to do. You don't push a button to shift, but you can start out in first, then hammer it forward to shift to second, then hammer it forward it again into third. You don't have to worry about pressing a button or skipping over 2 and landing in D by accident, etc. Of course, if you want an even better feel, you would have to get those along with a manual valve body. Then you'll basically have a clutchess manual.
Basically, with a shift kit you are altering the shifting characteristics of a tranny. It will essentially firm up your shifts and make the shifts faster and stronger. The idea is that the less time it takes the trans to shift, the less time the clutches spend slipping and generating heat, which can kill an automatic transmission. If done right, they can help improve both the shift quality and life of the trans.
I have a shift kit in my car. If I'm in first gear with WOT, it will hold first until about 5200 RPM. Then second gear kicks in and the tires "bark" or "chirp" (depeding on where you call it where you live) as is quickly and firmly shifts into second gear. Then it holds second until the RPMs get around 5200 or so before firmly and quickly shifting into 3rd. You can really feel the difference and it can literally bump you back in your seat when it shifts at WOT. Of course, under normal driving conditions it still firms them up but you don't feel it as much.
As far as pushing a button to shift, you may be thinking of something like a ratchet shifter. This shifter here may allow you to do what it is you are trying to do... or at least what I think you are trying to do. You don't push a button to shift, but you can start out in first, then hammer it forward to shift to second, then hammer it forward it again into third. You don't have to worry about pressing a button or skipping over 2 and landing in D by accident, etc. Of course, if you want an even better feel, you would have to get those along with a manual valve body. Then you'll basically have a clutchess manual.
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RE: What does a shift kit do for a aod tanny??
Well thankyou for the help what shift kit woul you recommend? i want all out performance and i very want, what your describing!!! and 1 more thing i can have a shift kit and a rachet shifter? anyways i was looking and what rachet sifter will fit in our beloved mustangs
what shift kit woul you recommend? i want all out performance and i very want, what your describing!!! and 1 more thing i can have a shift kit and a rachet shifter? anyways i was looking and what rachet sifter will fit in our beloved mustangs
ORIGINAL: samseed101
Well I'm no expert by any means. I'm sure there are people out there that know an ****load more about them than I do. But I have dealt with my fair share of kits.
Personally, I would go for the shift kit. It makes the car feel completely different and makes it feel more powerful. It's a great feeling when you go from a standard AOD / AODE to one with a shift kit that feels like it punches or hits you when it shifts at WOT.
As far as the higher RPMs and shifting... if you drive normally then it won't shift as firm or as hard. It also will shift a lot sooner so you will not notice too much of a difference. You can still feel it, but nothing like you do at WOT. Basically, the more open the throttle,the firmer the shifts. And if you keep it open, it will wait a lot longer to shift into the next gear. A lot of times between first and second the tires will actually bark as it shifts. I wouldn't really worry about it killing your engine. Just be wary of the redline and you should be okay. As another sidenote... although the shift kits will allow you to shift into OD at any RPM... I highly advise that you DON'T. Many people treat OD as if it's just another gear and that's when the trouble starts. WOT shifts into OD can kill OD bands...even the kevlar ones.
As far as the before and after results... I'm sure you will be pleased with the results. Hard to explain... it just feels more powerful. But when you have the throttle wide open and you feel that first shift from 1 to 2, you'll know what I mean.
As far as shifting on your own, that goes back to what I said about ratchet shifters. You CAN do it with the stock one as well, but it's a bit harder because you can slip past the gear you want by accident. My ratchet shifter is finally on the way now that I got sick of using the stock shifter. But with ratchets (or stock) you cna go either way with or without the shift kit. You can either put it in D or drive normally, or you cna shift manually through the gears. The shift kit wouldn't affect your ability to do that. However, if you want total control and you still want an AOD / AODE, then I recommend getting a manual valve body.
But either way (with stock shofter or with ratchet... with or without shift kit) you can downshift at will. Just be careful oif that redline!!
Well I'm no expert by any means. I'm sure there are people out there that know an ****load more about them than I do. But I have dealt with my fair share of kits.
Personally, I would go for the shift kit. It makes the car feel completely different and makes it feel more powerful. It's a great feeling when you go from a standard AOD / AODE to one with a shift kit that feels like it punches or hits you when it shifts at WOT.
As far as the higher RPMs and shifting... if you drive normally then it won't shift as firm or as hard. It also will shift a lot sooner so you will not notice too much of a difference. You can still feel it, but nothing like you do at WOT. Basically, the more open the throttle,the firmer the shifts. And if you keep it open, it will wait a lot longer to shift into the next gear. A lot of times between first and second the tires will actually bark as it shifts. I wouldn't really worry about it killing your engine. Just be wary of the redline and you should be okay. As another sidenote... although the shift kits will allow you to shift into OD at any RPM... I highly advise that you DON'T. Many people treat OD as if it's just another gear and that's when the trouble starts. WOT shifts into OD can kill OD bands...even the kevlar ones.
As far as the before and after results... I'm sure you will be pleased with the results. Hard to explain... it just feels more powerful. But when you have the throttle wide open and you feel that first shift from 1 to 2, you'll know what I mean.
As far as shifting on your own, that goes back to what I said about ratchet shifters. You CAN do it with the stock one as well, but it's a bit harder because you can slip past the gear you want by accident. My ratchet shifter is finally on the way now that I got sick of using the stock shifter. But with ratchets (or stock) you cna go either way with or without the shift kit. You can either put it in D or drive normally, or you cna shift manually through the gears. The shift kit wouldn't affect your ability to do that. However, if you want total control and you still want an AOD / AODE, then I recommend getting a manual valve body.
But either way (with stock shofter or with ratchet... with or without shift kit) you can downshift at will. Just be careful oif that redline!!
ORIGINAL: Anthonyandmarisol
hey you really sound like you know what your talking about, Im going to go with your advice, what do you think i should do? and it always maxes out at i higher rpm? wont that put wear on your motor? and when you got yours what did you think of it, and what did you think of before and after esults, sorry about the 200 questions but thankyou for your help
hey you really sound like you know what your talking about, Im going to go with your advice, what do you think i should do? and it always maxes out at i higher rpm? wont that put wear on your motor? and when you got yours what did you think of it, and what did you think of before and after esults, sorry about the 200 questions but thankyou for your help
ORIGINAL: samseed101
Basically, with a shift kit you are altering the shifting characteristics of a tranny. It will essentially firm up your shifts and make the shifts faster and stronger. The idea is that the less time it takes the trans to shift, the less time the clutches spend slipping and generating heat, which can kill an automatic transmission. If done right, they can help improve both the shift quality and life of the trans.
I have a shift kit in my car. If I'm in first gear with WOT, it will hold first until about 5200 RPM. Then second gear kicks in and the tires "bark" or "chirp" (depeding on where you call it where you live) as is quickly and firmly shifts into second gear. Then it holds second until the RPMs get around 5200 or so before firmly and quickly shifting into 3rd. You can really feel the difference and it can literally bump you back in your seat when it shifts at WOT. Of course, under normal driving conditions it still firms them up but you don't feel it as much.
As far as pushing a button to shift, you may be thinking of something like a ratchet shifter. This shifter here may allow you to do what it is you are trying to do... or at least what I think you are trying to do. You don't push a button to shift, but you can start out in first, then hammer it forward to shift to second, then hammer it forward it again into third. You don't have to worry about pressing a button or skipping over 2 and landing in D by accident, etc. Of course, if you want an even better feel, you would have to get those along with a manual valve body. Then you'll basically have a clutchess manual.
Basically, with a shift kit you are altering the shifting characteristics of a tranny. It will essentially firm up your shifts and make the shifts faster and stronger. The idea is that the less time it takes the trans to shift, the less time the clutches spend slipping and generating heat, which can kill an automatic transmission. If done right, they can help improve both the shift quality and life of the trans.
I have a shift kit in my car. If I'm in first gear with WOT, it will hold first until about 5200 RPM. Then second gear kicks in and the tires "bark" or "chirp" (depeding on where you call it where you live) as is quickly and firmly shifts into second gear. Then it holds second until the RPMs get around 5200 or so before firmly and quickly shifting into 3rd. You can really feel the difference and it can literally bump you back in your seat when it shifts at WOT. Of course, under normal driving conditions it still firms them up but you don't feel it as much.
As far as pushing a button to shift, you may be thinking of something like a ratchet shifter. This shifter here may allow you to do what it is you are trying to do... or at least what I think you are trying to do. You don't push a button to shift, but you can start out in first, then hammer it forward to shift to second, then hammer it forward it again into third. You don't have to worry about pressing a button or skipping over 2 and landing in D by accident, etc. Of course, if you want an even better feel, you would have to get those along with a manual valve body. Then you'll basically have a clutchess manual.
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RE: What does a shift kit do for a aod tanny??
For the shift kit, a lot of people (includin gmyself) seem to like the TransGo shift kits. Here is a link to an eBay auction that has one for sale for $113 including shipping. TrasnGo also makes a kit if you want even firmer shifts. It's their "reprogramming kit" as opposed to their standard "shift kit." Those can be found on the web as well for about the same price but are a bit more difficult to install. I've never used this particular vendor, but this website has it listed for under $100.B&M also makes a high quality shift kit that some people swear by. Here is a link to their page that contains these kits.They're fairly easy to install yourself, but if you are not comfortable doing it you can have a tranny shop install it for $150 - $300.
You can absolutely have a shift kit and a ratchet shifter. That's exactly what I am doing. My ratchet shifter will be here tuesday. I purchased the B&M Hammer. Although I haven't seen it in person yet, it appears to be fairly easy to install and replaces the factory shifter. Here is a link to a place that is selling the B&M Hammer.
Of course, there are many different brands so feel free to shop around. I just went with TransGo and B&M because I know the brand and people seem to behappy with them.
You can absolutely have a shift kit and a ratchet shifter. That's exactly what I am doing. My ratchet shifter will be here tuesday. I purchased the B&M Hammer. Although I haven't seen it in person yet, it appears to be fairly easy to install and replaces the factory shifter. Here is a link to a place that is selling the B&M Hammer.
Of course, there are many different brands so feel free to shop around. I just went with TransGo and B&M because I know the brand and people seem to behappy with them.
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