The GT is gonna already come with the highest performance stuff, including a S/C'er....
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more boost anyone?? but i know what you mean, it is like trying to get more power into a ferrari. it is so expensive that anyone who can get one is most likely some rich bastard that wont do anything to it and it will probably sit in the garage most of its life <IMG src=smileys/smiley19.gif border="0">. wish i had 150k so i could give it proper treating!!!</P>

 

Riiiigggghhhhhttttt! No, the reason Ford supercharges things like the Cobra, is because of how easy it is to mod a supercharged engine. You see, Ford built the Cobra so people could go out and actually afford to mod them, and race them, and not just be bought to be a "garage queen" as the majority of Vettes are, and think about it, the majority of Vette owners are older people!
So you bring up the classic argument of.... "well Ford had to supercharge it to compete!" Again, ease of modding, better drivability than heads, cam, intake setup, and price....you can go get a supercharger for your beloved Vette, but what would that total price be compared to the Cobra with one already installed??? Ford believes in more "bang for the buck" and they know that real motor heads like to build their own rides up no matter what they start with, so why put something out there that is just about maxed out, or costs an arm & a leg to mod? Most people don't want that, they want to build their own, thus the biggest aftermarket, and popularity of the Mustang over the Camaro / Firebird....they had a bigger motor, thus faster stock, and overpriced, and where are they now? GM has to say they are faster no matter what the cost! Not smart, it should be about balance in all aspects, when will GM learn that? For example, the new GTO. It's justa Camaro SS with a new shell!! It is heavier, doesn't put out the performance #'s, not as unique looking (looks like a Grand Prix), and more expensive than the Camaro and Firebird were...What are they thinking?!?! I mean the main reasons that the C/F were killed for, they are putting right back into the GTO, only more-so! Again, the majority of people out there are going to go for a balance of all aspects, not just "hey, i spent alot more money, but i can go a little faster"!

 

Uuuhhh, so what your saying is that the GT won't be able to be modded?? Guess you don't know that they are finding out that the 03 Cobra's 4.6 stock bottom end is handling 900 HP RELIABLY! So what would make you think that the 5.4 couldn't be taken higher?? And yes, whether you know it or not, there is PLENTY of aftermarket goodies out for the GT motor already! No, sorry, the GT won't be coming with "the highest performance stuff", I know alot of you GM fans want to believe that, cause i guess that's hard to swallow (i've heard this before from you guys), but you'll see! And don't think that it is just going to be a "garage queen", they are already predicting it to be on the road course cicuits, just like the Saleen S7 that costs about the same! Uh oh Vette and Viper!!!!

 

"Bang for the Buck" S/C'ed '02 Camaro SS OWNS both the '03 Cobra and the new GT....

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Yes, you're right, you got us on that one....they were soooo "bang for the buck", that's why they didn't sell worth a s**t, to the extent of the Stang outselling them year after year, even when combining the Camaro and Firebird sales together,and are dead now! My apologies all great and all knowing one.<img border="0" src=smileys/smiley23.gif border="0">

 

The F-Body was not designed to appeal to 16-year-old squealing teenage girls who want a cute little car. The F-Body was not designed to haul home your brand new lawnmower from Home Depot. The F-Body was not designed to be as comfortable as a Camry, no; it was not designed like a Mustang. Don’t get me wrong, I love the Mustang. The Mustang owns a heritage that is like no other. It has a backing of its on enthusiasts, and it represents a common bond in more ways than just “RWD V8”. Setting that aside, the Mustang was not designed with performance 100% in mind. Does it perform? Yes, very well at that, but the main goal of the Mustang the past decade has been, “how many can we sell?” IMO, design has been compromised over function. Ford has done something right for business though, they’ve figured out how to appeal to the masses. They accomplished their goal. The way I see it, they accomplished their goal almost as well as GM accomplished theirs. GM’s goal was to build an enthusiasts car, a man’s man performance machine, and they have done so. GM has moved leaps and bounds past the Mustang project the past decade, leaving not only Ford, but everyone else in the dust.


CONGRATULATIONS Ford for appealing to the ladies!!!!

 

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You're right, Ford did do it right. It's about balance! Ford doesn't make cars just to say they are faster... they are smarter than that. They make cars with that thing called BALANCE!! ever hear of it? The regular Mustang is well balanced between power, ride comfort, price, etc.. etc.. Then if you want a "man's man" car, you opt for the Cobra, or hell even the lightning! This whole beingwell BALANCEDidea is something that GM obviously never caught on to! Thus the death of the Firebird and Camaro!</P>


You're possibly right about the Mustang not being 100% performance oriented...i guess it was "unfortunately" designed to be happily lived with, and affordable on a daily basis...shame on that Mustang!!<IMG src=smileys/smiley6.gif border="0"></P>


Uummmm, isn't all "good" business about "how many can we sell" and "appealing to the masses"?? Maybe not where you come from......oh, that's right, you're from the GM camp!<IMG src=smileys/smiley9.gif border="0"> <IMG src=smileys/smiley32.gif border="0"></P>


Soooo, i guess GM's "goal" was never to successfully continue making the Camaro or Firebird right?If that's the case then i guess itobviously was just..."let's make them faster than the Mustang, but less reliable and have a higher cost of maintenance(don't even try to argue this point, there is s**t-loads of surveys and studies done on a yearly basis to prove this one), not affordable on a daily basis to most people (gas, insurance, etc...), and way overpriced for what you get, but at least it will be a "MAN"S MAN car!!! WOW, that is some smart business if you ask me...whewee! How does Ford ever compete with that!?!?<IMG src=smileys/smiley5.gif border="0"></P>


Yes, you just profound us with your knowledge once again..."GM has moved leaps and bounds past the Mustang project...leaving Ford and everyone else in the dust". They just had to stop making the C/F because they were just DOMINATING THE WORLD, and it wasn't fair to everyone else to have such a worldwide monopoly like that!!! My bad, I apologize!<IMG src=smileys/smiley19.gif border="0"></P>


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Oh, and on the..."congratulations for appealing to the ladies", now, now, you don't have to jealous just because the ladies are driving cooler, more popular, bettter cars than yours!! <IMG src=smileys/smiley19.gif border="0">That doesn't mean you have to be a sexist hater!!</P>


MORAL OF THE STORY&gt;............................PUT THE CRACK PIPE DOWN, IT's FRYING YOUR FRIGGIN BRAIN!!!!!!!!!I can give you numbers to some real good rehab clinics if you want....i've been helping other GM owners this way!!!<IMG src=smileys/smiley31.gif border="0"></P>

 

Most ladies do like it slow and easy...

BTW, if the C/F would have never died for a short period, much like the T-Bird that everyone forgets about, what would be your argument?

 

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The t-bird was never meant to be a mainstay performance car or replace the Mustang. It was just to show Ford's heritage, oh great wise one. And let's not play pretend or live in a fantasy world...the C/F are dead...deal with it! And even if they didn't, they would still be getting smoked by the Cobra, and i would still say.... THEY ARE JUNK!!!! Speaking from experience of friends and family!</P>


True, buti'm aweful surprised that you know anything about how the LADIES like it...my money would've been on you knowing lots about the other sex!</P>