mustang or ford
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From: North Cackilacky
mustang or ford
wow...Search before running your mouth and you'll see numerous LS1's breaking into the 12's on street tires from the factory. I don't know why it's so hard for everyone here to believe, Chevy small blocks make more power. Whooptee doo. What's the best you've got out of your Mach yet? I've seen it rated at 13.8. The Mach is an awesome looking Mustang though, with the breather and all. At least it is N/A unlike it's Cobra counterpart. Concept..............<img src=uploads/95LT1/AZFBB_camaro2.JPG border="0">
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Joined: Jan 2004
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From: United States
mustang or ford
i love GM, own a ford, wish i had a camaro, u people still don't get it do ya, those that say the Mach is faster then the 02 SS, so its faster by what some say uh 0.2 seconds? then some one said their is a diff of 20 hp, 02 SS with the 20hp more, but also look at the weight difference. thats where the mustang makes up the diff in hp is in its light weight DUH.so u stick the 02 SS motor in a stang or a stang in the 02 SS and make the weight even and then we see who ones who.
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Joined: Jan 2004
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From: United States
mustang or ford
Originally Posted by 95LT1
wow...Search before running your mouth and you'll see numerous LS1's breaking into the 12's on street tires from the factory. I don't know why it's so hard for everyone here to believe, Chevy small blocks make more power. Whooptee doo. What's the best you've got out of your Mach yet? I've seen it rated at 13.8. The Mach is an awesome looking Mustang though, with the breather and all. At least it is N/A unlike it's Cobra counterpart. Concept..............<img src=uploads/95LT1/AZFBB_camaro2.JPG border="0">
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Originally Posted by mach368
95lt1......I have never seen a 02 ss camaro do 12.8 with stock tires.Please dont try and talk like you know so much cause you have been to the track,cause so have i in richmond and in north carolina.Now as for gm being the hp king please they must suck at getting it to the rear whells or there engines just dont seem to pull very well.Your 02ss camaro has 325 hp and 350tq and the mach 1 only has 305hp and 320tq yet its still faster.Even if your telling the truth about a stock 02ss with stock tires runs a 12.8 and i know for a fact that the mach1 is capable of a 12.99 on stock tires.Thats a 20hp and 30tq difference and all you can gain in the 1/4 is a 0.1,thats pretty bad.</P>
I for the record i actually own a mach1 so when i say its capable of something than im not repeating what ive heard from others.Im not sure if you have or ever have owned a 02 ss camaro but i kinda doubt it.I also think you are full of it when you say 02 ss have run 12.8's,you didnt say wether or not the tires were stock or not.Even if it was not a drag tire on the car if they switch to any other grippier tire than what the car came with than its a mod.</P>
By the way if gm's cars where such power kings than why couldnt they stay around?I mean surely if they are as big and as bad as you seem to think then why didnt they sell enough to stay around.Please dont come back and say it was a sales move to pull it and then bring it back.Its been about 3 years now and there hasnt even been a concept or an official word that the camaro will be back.
STOCK & I mean, BONE STOCK LS1's are FAMOUS for reaching 12.8's. Even Z28's and Trans Am's reach 12's stock! God, all of you Ford lackies take major issues with a larger cube engine whipping itself down the 1/4 mile faster. What's the big freaking deal? </P>
The fastest Mach 1 has hit 12.8, now - more than 1 driver has reached that goal. Mach 1's arejust as fast as LS1's, they have alittle less HP (10-15hp giving variances from the factory)- but they are 150-200 lbs lighter. LS1's, fully loaded..hold your breath, scale in at 3,450 lbs with a full tank of petro. The Ford automatic still lags far behind the superior LS1 automatic transmission. One of the best electric trannies that exist... <IMG src=smileys/smiley3.gif border="0"></P>
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Originally Posted by 95LT1
LS1's.....12's.....how dare you say that on this site. You, my friend, shall be flamed.
We mentioned LS1's running 12's! We are wrong, no doubting it...don't you hate the non-believer BS? I swear I go through an arguement about LS1's every month here. I think there should be a freakin' STICKY made about LS1's running 12's...</P>