Turns out mustangs are bad track cars
02-22-2006, 02:50 AM
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RE: Turns out mustangs are bad track cars
ORIGINAL: 03YellowPony
WTF?? Better do some research. Not all FWD cars have independant rear suspension. My old Accord didn't and my old Cavalier didn't. And my 91 Grand Am certainly doesn't...
WTF?? Better do some research. Not all FWD cars have independant rear suspension. My old Accord didn't and my old Cavalier didn't. And my 91 Grand Am certainly doesn't...
02-22-2006, 03:44 AM
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RE: Not at all!
An IRS is not necessary for a "Track car". An IRS is designed to keep both wheels planted over rough or uneven pavement. If you're "Road Racing" (i.e. racing on public roads) as is very popular in Europe, an IRS is essential for good handling. On flat, paved modern racetracks however, an IRS may actually be at a disadvantage due to the extra weight and it's relative fragility when compared to a stick axle. Just look at how the new factory built '05 Mustang GT Grand Am race cars did this year. They swept the top positions in their first race (against BMW's, Nissans, etc.) and did so well that they incurred a 100lb weight penalty for future races! They still managed to win the season Championship, however...
Mustangs are fine track cars! However, if you want a pure "Track" car, buy a Miata, an S2000, a Mini Cooper, etc., spend a few K in mods and you'll have just the car you want...
Mustangs are fine track cars! However, if you want a pure "Track" car, buy a Miata, an S2000, a Mini Cooper, etc., spend a few K in mods and you'll have just the car you want...
02-22-2006, 07:57 AM
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RE: Turns out mustangs are bad track cars
ORIGINAL: carcrazy
The c5 Corvette's have live rear axles, and leaf springs.
Leaf springs - http://www.westcoastcorvette.com/sho..._cat.cfm?id=87
10th line down - http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...te/index1.html
Wonder if they are gunna say it cant hang?
The c5 Corvette's have live rear axles, and leaf springs.
Leaf springs - http://www.westcoastcorvette.com/sho..._cat.cfm?id=87
10th line down - http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...te/index1.html
Wonder if they are gunna say it cant hang?
02-22-2006, 12:25 PM
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RE: Turns out mustangs are bad track cars
ORIGINAL: 03YellowPony
WTF?? Better do some research. Not all FWD cars have independant rear suspension. My old Accord didn't and my old Cavalier didn't. And my 91 Grand Am certainly doesn't...
ORIGINAL: waxyourboard
There's basically two types of rear suspension you can have... Live Axle, or IRS (Independant Rear Suspension). All FWD cars have IRS obviously, because they don't need to put any power to the ground from the rear wheels.
Most RWD cars have a live axle suspension, and yes, it is better in a straight line. But with the right suspension setup and multi-link setups, they can be made to handle almost as well as an IRS car
ORIGINAL: XxphantomsnypzxX
true, not sure how great IRS is for track? maybe someone could help me by explaining which is better etc of suspensions on a track
true, not sure how great IRS is for track? maybe someone could help me by explaining which is better etc of suspensions on a track
Most RWD cars have a live axle suspension, and yes, it is better in a straight line. But with the right suspension setup and multi-link setups, they can be made to handle almost as well as an IRS car
02-24-2006, 03:11 PM
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RE: Turns out mustangs are bad track cars
It is all how you set up your suspension for the type of driving you are going to do. Did you ever hear of a Steeda 5-point rear suspension? Changes everything! New upper and lower performance control arms will also help quite a bit among many other such stabilizing parts available.
02-26-2006, 05:21 AM
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RE: Not at all!
ORIGINAL: Bullitthead
An IRS is not necessary for a "Track car". An IRS is designed to keep both wheels planted over rough or uneven pavement. If you're "Road Racing" (i.e. racing on public roads) as is very popular in Europe, an IRS is essential for good handling. On flat, paved modern racetracks however, an IRS may actually be at a disadvantage due to the extra weight and it's relative fragility when compared to a stick axle. Just look at how the new factory built '05 Mustang GT Grand Am race cars did this year. They swept the top positions in their first race (against BMW's, Nissans, etc.) and did so well that they incurred a 100lb weight penalty for future races! They still managed to win the season Championship, however...
Mustangs are fine track cars! However, if you want a pure "Track" car, buy a Miata, an S2000, a Mini Cooper, etc., spend a few K in mods and you'll have just the car you want...
An IRS is not necessary for a "Track car". An IRS is designed to keep both wheels planted over rough or uneven pavement. If you're "Road Racing" (i.e. racing on public roads) as is very popular in Europe, an IRS is essential for good handling. On flat, paved modern racetracks however, an IRS may actually be at a disadvantage due to the extra weight and it's relative fragility when compared to a stick axle. Just look at how the new factory built '05 Mustang GT Grand Am race cars did this year. They swept the top positions in their first race (against BMW's, Nissans, etc.) and did so well that they incurred a 100lb weight penalty for future races! They still managed to win the season Championship, however...
Mustangs are fine track cars! However, if you want a pure "Track" car, buy a Miata, an S2000, a Mini Cooper, etc., spend a few K in mods and you'll have just the car you want...
02-26-2008, 06:28 PM
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RE: Turns out mustangs are bad track cars
if you like ford cars try a 1990 Thunderbird I had one for awhile and I will tell ya what I live in the country and on back roads and hills it stuck like glue right up to the point you crest a hill at high speeds and it leaves the ground. I have run many different makes and models of cars and none handled like that one