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Old 05-20-2006, 02:19 AM
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Back from the track and too bummed out to sleep. Anyone have a clue what it feels like to have a much faster car and get beat in nearly every race? All my previous post praising the P-zero's need to be removed. I COULD NOT GET THIS CAR TO HOOK TONIGHT!! I sadly spun at every single launch and got embarrased by cars that should have been tight but easy kills. I had considerably higher top speeds on every race (only six runs tonight) The only wins I had were against a modified 94' GT stang and a "sigh" juiced eclipse. I raced the same SRT twice (he was cutting .1's to my .3's) and he won by a .22 and a .15 I had an AWD mitsi 3000 jump me by at least two at the 60ft mark. He ended up winning by .285 I am most upset by the SRT Neon. There was a racing club on hand tonight that ws Rick Hendrick sponsored. The track owners made a lot of fuss about them and they had cars representing a variety of different levels of performance. Some I could not compete with. But two were right up my alley...both ran front slicks. I had both on top speed and if I had another 100ft of track (I run 1/8th) I would have had them both. But my uncontrollable spinning at launch sealed it for them. I guess I have reached the point where the P-zero's can't put down the power I'm making. My best run of the night :
.302 R/T got digital lamps this season so no more .5 being a perfect cut, and yes .3's suck
2.18 60ft I pulled a 1.92 before pullies and custom dyno tune, but I NEVER spun
8.770 @ 83.55mph this was an 8.9sec @ 81mph car last season

That damn SRT got the win with a 8.86 on this same run, he broke the beam .15 ahead of me. I am going to get some type of drag radial. I really think if get the spinning under control at launch, second shift, and third shift I should be able to plant low 8.6's or maybe into 8.5's
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Old 05-20-2006, 02:27 AM
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Yea man, I wouldn't feel too bad about this. The stock P-Zero's can only go so far. I never imaged them being the best option for track running. I personally am not ready to invest in DR's, but I am currently looking for some wider rubber to put on there. Just get you some better tires and get back "on the horse". lol
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Old 05-20-2006, 02:43 AM
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Back from the track and too bummed out to sleep. Anyone have a clue what it feels like to have a much faster car and get beat in nearly every race? All my previous post praising the P-zero's need to be removed. I COULD NOT GET THIS CAR TO HOOK TONIGHT!! I sadly spun at every single launch and got embarrased by cars that should have been tight but easy kills. I had considerably higher top speeds on every race (only six runs tonight) The only wins I had were against a modified 94' GT stang and a "sigh" juiced eclipse. I raced the same SRT twice (he was cutting .1's to my .3's) and he won by a .22 and a .15 I had an AWD mitsi 3000 jump me by at least two at the 60ft mark. He ended up winning by .285 I am most upset by the SRT Neon. There was a racing club on hand tonight that ws Rick Hendrick sponsored. The track owners made a lot of fuss about them and they had cars representing a variety of different levels of performance. Some I could not compete with. But two were right up my alley...both ran front slicks. I had both on top speed and if I had another 100ft of track (I run 1/8th) I would have had them both. But my uncontrollable spinning at launch sealed it for them. I guess I have reached the point where the P-zero's can't put down the power I'm making. My best run of the night :
.302 R/T got digital lamps this season so no more .5 being a perfect cut, and yes .3's suck
2.18 60ft I pulled a 1.92 before pullies and custom dyno tune, but I NEVER spun
8.770 @ 83.55mph this was an 8.9sec @ 81mph car last season

That damn SRT got the win with a 8.86 on this same run, he broke the beam .15 ahead of me. I am going to get some type of drag radial. I really think if get the spinning under control at launch, second shift, and third shift I should be able to plant low 8.6's or maybe into 8.5's
Keep your head up man. You have a great passion for racing I see, which is the main driving factor for track sucess. Sometimes you have to play with the recipe a bit before you get the perfect taste. Just work on your luanches and let the engine take you to the promised land.
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Old 05-20-2006, 05:48 AM
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Don't feel bad Ghost, Tonight was my first time out in over 10 years and pretty disappointing too. My first pass was 2.441 60 ft. with a .513 reaction time! I got hammered by a Camaro with a .089 r/t and a 2.12 60ft. He beat me by 8 100ths in the quarter. My 2nd and final pass I somehow got hooked up with the exact same Camaro (large crowd even) and got my revenge. My .015 r/t to his .218 and his 2.147 60ft to my still weak 2.304 60ft. I beat him 13.474 @ 106.37mph to his 13.995 @ 101.13mph. At least I know there's a 12 in my car if I can just get it to hook up. Strange how all the hype I hear about 6.0 GTO's and those riced out Neons and they all consistently ran 14's tonight...
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Old 05-20-2006, 06:21 AM
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Yeah, keep working on the launch. With stock gears and tires and mods in my sig (similar to yours), I have run a best 1/8 of 8.45 @ 84.24 and 1/4 of 13.06 @ 106.84.
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Het Ghost, Personally I swear by the BFG KDW2's (second generation). I am running 245/245/18s. I replaced my toyo proxes that had 11000 miles to try to get a better 60ft. I went from low 2 second 60ft's to a 1.68 at 28 psi with the change. I do have several suspension upgrades as well. I was pulling better 60 ft's than people with D/R's. I went to the track with a friend that has a Cobra that runs high 11's. He was on M/T E/T's and he freaked because I had better launches.

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Old 05-20-2006, 12:41 PM
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Het Ghost, Personally I swear by the BFG KDW2's (second generation). I am running 245/245/18s. I replaced my toyo proxes that had 11000 miles to try to get a better 60ft. I went from low 2 second 60ft's to a 1.68 at 28 psi with the change. I do have several suspension upgrades as well. I was pulling better 60 ft's than people with D/R's. I went to the track with a friend that has a Cobra that runs high 11's. He was on M/T E/T's and he freaked because I had better launches.

[sm=gears.gif]< They don't do that, that bark and go!
I have BMR lower control arms, relocation brackets, and adjustable upper controll arm. Last time I was out I was cutting low 1.9's consistently and a few 1.8's for 60ft. times. But I had not installed my pullies or had the custom dyno tune done. Seems these two things are more than the P-zero's can handle.

Oh, and it was late and dark when I wrote the original post. I was looking at the time slips this morning and that SRT that cut the .1 R/T to my .3 R/T turned a 1.84 60ft. to my 2.233 60ft (spinning) and beat me by .015 I thought it was .15 last night so if I cut a good light and hooked I would have had the SRT by almost a second! But what if's don't count...next time though
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Old 05-20-2006, 01:02 PM
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how are you launching the car? When i run my pzeros i launch around 1500, and cut 1.9-2.0, when put on my buddys 555r's i launch at 2000, Get some new tires, youll be happy. Im kinda mad too, i took my offroad x off and i cant get back in to the 12's im off by .008, to funny, hopefully me bassani x comes any day now so i can try to get a 12.7 with the drag radials on.
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Het Ghost, Personally I swear by the BFG KDW2's (second generation). I am running 245/245/18s. I replaced my toyo proxes that had 11000 miles to try to get a better 60ft. I went from low 2 second 60ft's to a 1.68 at 28 psi with the change. I do have several suspension upgrades as well. I was pulling better 60 ft's than people with D/R's. I went to the track with a friend that has a Cobra that runs high 11's. He was on M/T E/T's and he freaked because I had better launches.

[sm=gears.gif]< They don't do that, that bark and go!
I have BMR lower control arms, relocation brackets, and adjustable upper controll arm. Last time I was out I was cutting low 1.9's consistently and a few 1.8's for 60ft. times. But I had not installed my pullies or had the custom dyno tune done. Seems these two things are more than the P-zero's can handle.

Oh, and it was late and dark when I wrote the original post. I was looking at the time slips this morning and that SRT that cut the .1 R/T to my .3 R/T turned a 1.84 60ft. to my 2.233 60ft (spinning) and beat me by .015 I thought it was .15 last night so if I cut a good light and hooked I would have had the SRT by almost a second! But what if's don't count...next time though
I did the lower adjustable race bars and panhard bar. Other than those and the tires, the best thing I did to get traction was a steeda adjustable third link and the steeda torque box braces. They made a big difference.
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Old 05-20-2006, 07:26 PM
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how are you launching the car? When i run my pzeros i launch around 1500, and cut 1.9-2.0, when put on my buddys 555r's i launch at 2000,
I launch off-idle I "was" getting my best launch from flashing the converter, and I was cutting 1.8-1.9 60's. Last night I broke loose at every single launch. It was so bad that I began to try to compensate for spin by launching WAY earlier than i was used to doing. I typically pull pretty good R/T numbers but last night was not the case. I was so loose that on two runs the back end began to come around when it shifted 1>2 I don't know, this was my first outing this season and not getting good launches, and spinning on shifts beat me up pretty bad. I was expecting a lot more after the new tune and pully change. Well, I guess I did get a lot more, more than I could stick to the track.
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