5.0M&SF CAI comparison
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RE: 5.0M&SF CAI comparison
ORIGINAL: d_man777
So the MAF only measures the velocity of the air passing over the sensor, but calculates total volume based on cross sectional area of the stock intake tube? So the Airaid velocity stack increases the velocity yielding more air. Does anyone know if the new velocity is substantially more, and if so, will the stock tune adjust the a/f for the new volume of air?
So the MAF only measures the velocity of the air passing over the sensor, but calculates total volume based on cross sectional area of the stock intake tube? So the Airaid velocity stack increases the velocity yielding more air. Does anyone know if the new velocity is substantially more, and if so, will the stock tune adjust the a/f for the new volume of air?
I didn't read the whole thing yet, but here is a really good article on the MAF function... Click Here
#13
RE: 5.0M&SF CAI comparison
I think that any CAI that claims a significant HP boost without a tune is wishful thinking at best and marketing garbage at worst. Also, there isn't much of a difference between the different CAIs, so if it works for one then it should work for all (and vice versa).
The MAF and O2 sensors do help the ECU meter fuel. But, this only goes so far. In reality, an ECU is basically a "lookup table". The computer checks the various sensors for their readings (throttle, O2, MAF, and so on) and then matches those values against a chart. The chart then indicates how much fuel to spray. The problem is that most of the "tuning" comes from the chart itself, and the sensors don't have that much input.
Also, like others have said the MAF is dependant on the geometry of the inlet pipe. The engine doesn't magically "know" exactly how much air there is coming into it.
I think the tune + CAI combo is by far the best way to go. The most popular seem to be the C&L, JLT, Steeda, and K&N. I'm not saying that these intakes are better than the others, but one of these would be a good choice becasue they seem to be the most well understood for tuning purposes. If you were to find a great but "no-name" CAI, chances are it wouldn't be good for your car becasue your chance of getting a good tune for it is slim.
The tuner is a great device to have anyway! You can use it to read and reset trouble codes, log data, and it comes in handy for future mods. It is useful for correcting your speedometer if you change tire sizes or rear-end gears, etc. It's definatley nice to have around.
The MAF and O2 sensors do help the ECU meter fuel. But, this only goes so far. In reality, an ECU is basically a "lookup table". The computer checks the various sensors for their readings (throttle, O2, MAF, and so on) and then matches those values against a chart. The chart then indicates how much fuel to spray. The problem is that most of the "tuning" comes from the chart itself, and the sensors don't have that much input.
Also, like others have said the MAF is dependant on the geometry of the inlet pipe. The engine doesn't magically "know" exactly how much air there is coming into it.
I think the tune + CAI combo is by far the best way to go. The most popular seem to be the C&L, JLT, Steeda, and K&N. I'm not saying that these intakes are better than the others, but one of these would be a good choice becasue they seem to be the most well understood for tuning purposes. If you were to find a great but "no-name" CAI, chances are it wouldn't be good for your car becasue your chance of getting a good tune for it is slim.
The tuner is a great device to have anyway! You can use it to read and reset trouble codes, log data, and it comes in handy for future mods. It is useful for correcting your speedometer if you change tire sizes or rear-end gears, etc. It's definatley nice to have around.
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