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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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Thanks you guys that gave me great input and info. on my previous post " LCA's, but which ones ? ". I learned a whole bunch.

My question now is...I have 1' drop rear springs on my GT. Will new and better LCA do the job? OR do I need LCA relocation brackets do to the 1' drop? As soon as I get your feedback, I will be ordering the appropriate kit.
Thanks again for all your inputs, and suggestions.
Old Jun 10, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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I will get them since u will have a more agressive angle for launches. I love mines in my car
Old Jun 10, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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I have the chebrackets. They only have one hole, so aren't as adjustable, but the quality is very good IMO. Plus the bolt holes lined up and the spacer sleeves fit perfectly, which I've read has been a problem with the bmr brackets.

How do you make the sleeves too long? I don't get it.
Old Jun 10, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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I have seen good arguments for adjustables on both upper and lower and have also seen opinions good and bad about both steeda and bmr. Ultimately it's your car so who's parts you choose is up to you however I would go with 1 of those 2 vendors. I have plans to do the relo brackets and uca most likely lca's will be fixedbecause once I have it adjusted I shouldnt have to go back toit again. Also I have read a number of times you only need adjustable on the upper or lower not both but a couple very knowledgeable people have said upper is more important.
Based on what I have readand looked into I will most likely do the following:
AdjustableUCA and mounting bracket
Non-adjustable LCA's, and relo brackets
Adjustable panhard bar and brace, and most likely will go with Steeda on all accounts, except for relo brackets which will be bmr.

If I'm wrong about any of what I said above I'm sure someone with alot more knowledge than me will make corrections.
Old Jun 10, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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FYI I had no problems installing the BMRs. The bolt holes and sleeves fit fine. The only issue I had was the bracket being a tiny bit too narrow so I had to use a jack to coerce the LCA into the bracket.
Old Jun 10, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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I have seen good arguments for adjustables on both upper and lower and have also seen opinions good and bad about both steeda and bmr. Ultimately it's your car so who's parts you choose is up to you however I would go with 1 of those 2 vendors. I have plans to do the relo brackets and uca most likely lca's will be fixedbecause once I have it adjusted I shouldnt have to go back toit again. Also I have read a number of times you only need adjustable on the upper or lower not both but a couple very knowledgeable people have said upper is more important.
Based on what I have readand looked into I will most likely do the following:
AdjustableUCA and mounting bracket
Non-adjustable LCA's, and relo brackets
Adjustable panhard bar and brace, and most likely will go with Steeda on all accounts, except for relo brackets which will be bmr.

If I'm wrong about any of what I said above I'm sure someone with alot more knowledge than me will make corrections.
Hi Mikes__BLK_GT,

In terms of weld-onLCA relocation brackets the Steeda LCA relocation brackets arethe best design because they providemore LCA adjustment positions andmore importantly has a much smaller gap between the stock location and the first LCAlocation on thebracket body. This is important for anyone who is looking for the ideal LCA angle for handling because you can get the LCA's closer to parallel to the groundwithany sportspring or ride height more easily than with BMR'sLCA brackets which have fewer and farther adjustment locationsin their LCA relocation brackets. I had no fit/alignment problems installing the BMR weld-on LCA relocaion brackets on my own car nor have I had any problems installing the weld-on Steeda LCA brackets on other S197GT's. IfSteeda had their LCA relocation brackets on the markettwo yearsago I most certainly would have install their instead of the BMR brackets due to the better LCA adjustment options.

If for some reason you are not willing to have the brackets welded to your axle the BMR bolt on design is the best of the bolt on designs I've see and installed. The CHE part is just stupid with a single LCA mounting point. What were they thinking?

Cheers!
Old Jun 10, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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If for some reason you are not willing to have the brackets welded to your axle the BMR bolt on design is the best of the bolt on designs I've see and installed. The CHE part is just stupid with a single LCA mounting point. What were they thinking?

Cheers!
They were thinking not everyone needs more than one mounting point! Mine are perfectly level with the ground using the ford racing springs. That's all that's needed for most people.
Old Jun 10, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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Thanks you guys that gave me great input and info. on my previous post " LCA's, but which ones ? ". I learned a whole bunch.

My question now is...I have 1' drop rear springs on my GT. Will new and better LCA do the job? OR do I need LCA relocation brackets do to the 1' drop? As soon as I get your feedback, I will be ordering the appropriate kit.
Thanks again for all your inputs, and suggestions.
Stock, I had some wheel hop.
Did a 1" drop with springs only, most hop seemed to be gone.
Installed adj lca's all seems to be gone, havent had hop since. 1.8-1.9 60's at the strip.
Now the angle of the lca is not level, and people say I shuold get the relocate brackets. But right now I cant see doing that since my wheel hop issue is gone and my launches are pretty darn good.
Old Jun 10, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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If for some reason you are not willing to have the brackets welded to your axle the BMR bolt on design is the best of the bolt on designs I've see and installed. The CHE part is just stupid with a single LCA mounting point. What were they thinking?

Cheers!
They were thinking not everyone needs more than one mounting point! Mine are perfectly level with the ground using the ford racing springs. That's all that's needed for most people.
Hi Moosestang,

I installeda set ofCHE LCA relocation bracketsalong with a set of Tokico D-Specs and FRPP/Eibach Pro-Kit sport springs for a local S197GTownerand IMO there is no way your LCA's areparallel to the ground with the CHE bolt-in LCA brackets. You might be sort of close, saywithin 1.5 degrees of parallel but notparallel. I followthe factoryFord shop manual practice of torquing all control arm and rear damper fasteners with the rear axle at normal ride height andhis LCA's were not even close to being parallel to the ground once I had the guy's car off the stands.

While it is probably true that between FRPP and Eibach (FYI,FRPP sells the Eibach Pro-Kit springs as their ownFRPP sportspring which means that every Shelby GT, Hertz GT-H coupe and vert. has these springs installed), they are the majority of the sport springs seen on S197s in my area (SoCal), not all cars are the same nor are all cars using FRPP/Eibach Pro-Kit sport springs. There are MANY differentvery good sportsprings on the market. Steeda the largestthird-partyMustang parts supplier in the worldsells sportsprings for S197 chassis that only lower the car approx. 1" all around as does H&R. The FRPP/Eibach Pro-Kit springs drop the rear 1.5"-1.7", the Eibach Sportlines drop the rear 2". All of CHE's suspension parts are verydragstrip oriented and are notwell designed even fora car that only sees the dragstrip. From a mechanical design standpointa well designed suspensioncomponent will allow for awide range of settingsanduses withmany different makes of equipment and allow for adjustabilityto the type of track, track conditions, suspension/tire combinations and driver preference all while meeting reasonable mechanical load requirements with a healthymargin of safety. For all of these reasonsa well designed LCA relocation bracketwill incorporateas wide a range of adjustabilityas is mechanicallypractical.

So knowing thisyou should be able to see thathaving more than one mounting hole location inLCA relocation brackets is arequirement ofany good LCA relocation bracket design. The CHE LCA relocation bracket with itssingle locationLCAmounting point is simply apoor design and IMO just stupid.

Hope this helps!
Old Jun 10, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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My car rides better with the brackets. Just another reason to get them.

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Thanks you guys that gave me great input and info. on my previous post " LCA's, but which ones ? ". I learned a whole bunch.

My question now is...I have 1' drop rear springs on my GT. Will new and better LCA do the job? OR do I need LCA relocation brackets do to the 1' drop? As soon as I get your feedback, I will be ordering the appropriate kit.
Thanks again for all your inputs, and suggestions.
Stock, I had some wheel hop.
Did a 1" drop with springs only, most hop seemed to be gone.
Installed adj lca's all seems to be gone, havent had hop since. 1.8-1.9 60's at the strip.
Now the angle of the lca is not level, and people say I shuold get the relocate brackets. But right now I cant see doing that since my wheel hop issue is gone and my launches are pretty darn good.



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