stock gt rwhp?
1st Gear Member
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 53
From: South Carolina
RE: stock gt rwhp?
I ran mine on the dyno last night and i got 249 hp and 268 tq with the mods i have in my sig......I'm hoping that the dyno wasn't calibrated right or something. cause if guys are getting 265 hp stock something doesn't seem right to me.
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Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,176
From: Decatur AL USA
RE: stock gt rwhp?
ORIGINAL: desslok40
30 to 40 over stock (250-auto/260 stick) would be 290-300 rwhp, plenty of people have claimed that, guess it depends on what threads you read. With my mods I ran a personal best 13.1 @ 104mph the other nightat Firebird, a perfect run so don't really see where I could have picked up another .2 or .3 to get me into the 12s, it takes a combination of mods to get in the 12s and a canned tune/intake on street tires is BS, therehave been plenty ofother S197s at the two tracks I frequentand I have never seen one run close to even 12.9 without a decent amount of modifications, namely drag radials, gears, LCAs, etc.....
hell most of the guys out here with blowers/NOS are only in the mid 12s, like I have said before I apparentlyAZGTs are slower !!!! lol
Guess you need to get east of the Mason-Dixon line to run faster !!!!?? lol
I will shut up when someone local with just a couple of mods on street tires makes a 12.9 run, period !!!
30 to 40 over stock (250-auto/260 stick) would be 290-300 rwhp, plenty of people have claimed that, guess it depends on what threads you read. With my mods I ran a personal best 13.1 @ 104mph the other nightat Firebird, a perfect run so don't really see where I could have picked up another .2 or .3 to get me into the 12s, it takes a combination of mods to get in the 12s and a canned tune/intake on street tires is BS, therehave been plenty ofother S197s at the two tracks I frequentand I have never seen one run close to even 12.9 without a decent amount of modifications, namely drag radials, gears, LCAs, etc.....
hell most of the guys out here with blowers/NOS are only in the mid 12s, like I have said before I apparentlyAZGTs are slower !!!! lol
Guess you need to get east of the Mason-Dixon line to run faster !!!!?? lol
I will shut up when someone local with just a couple of mods on street tires makes a 12.9 run, period !!!
CAI/Tune Stock Pirellis.
60's 1.89-2.01
Traps 106-107
DA's -71' to -658'
I also have a 13.08 from +944'.
I have two 12.9's from +674' with the addition of an aluminum driveshaft.
I dont know how to convince you. If you chose to believe the possible is impossible that is certainly your right.
PS Your trap speed seems low for an automatic with your mods. What was the Density Altitude for your 104.2 run?
5th Gear Member
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,547
From: The High Country
RE: stock gt rwhp?
No 2 dynos are the same and no 2 engines are the same. I have seen the numbers all over the scale and they are legit, No BSing either. That's just the way it is. Like it or lump it.
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RE: stock gt rwhp?
Heres the 4 main ingredients...Its 1. all about the tune. 2. Your PERSONAL engine (no two the exact same). 3. The type of DYNO. 4. Your area u live in AND what type off day it is......Arguing ERONNEOUSLY declaiming someone elses numbers or proclaiming someone else's numbers are BS. The only way to truly judge a car against one another is for both cars to be at the same place running at the same time with the same variables. Then u can argue who is BETTER ( i guess), for me i dont care i just wanna go fast, i could personally give a rats *** if my car was slower by.2 seconds.....ROFL at lots of people in these forums...rofl rofl rofl
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Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,547
From: The High Country
RE: stock gt rwhp?
ORIGINAL: Penance
Heres the 4 main ingredients...Its 1. all about the tune. 2. Your PERSONAL engine (no two the exact same). 3. The type of DYNO. 4. Your area u live in AND what type off day it is......Arguing ERONNEOUSLY declaiming someone elses numbers or proclaiming someone else's numbers are BS. The only way to truly judge a car against one another is for both cars to be at the same place running at the same time with the same variables. Then u can argue who is BETTER ( i guess), for me i dont care i just wanna go fast, i could personally give a rats *** if my car was slower by.2 seconds.....ROFL at lots of people in these forums...rofl rofl rofl
Heres the 4 main ingredients...Its 1. all about the tune. 2. Your PERSONAL engine (no two the exact same). 3. The type of DYNO. 4. Your area u live in AND what type off day it is......Arguing ERONNEOUSLY declaiming someone elses numbers or proclaiming someone else's numbers are BS. The only way to truly judge a car against one another is for both cars to be at the same place running at the same time with the same variables. Then u can argue who is BETTER ( i guess), for me i dont care i just wanna go fast, i could personally give a rats *** if my car was slower by.2 seconds.....ROFL at lots of people in these forums...rofl rofl rofl
Pretty well said for a newbie. Hats off to you.
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Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 632
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RE: stock gt rwhp?
ORIGINAL: Gene K
I have numerous 12.9's from two different tracks.
CAI/Tune Stock Pirellis.
60's 1.89-2.01
Traps 106-107
DA's -71' to -658'
I also have a 13.08 from +944'.
I have two 12.9's from +674' with the addition of an aluminum driveshaft.
I dont know how to convince you. If you chose to believe the possible is impossible that is certainly your right.
PS Your trap speed seems low for an automatic with your mods. What was the Density Altitude for your 104.2 run?
ORIGINAL: desslok40
30 to 40 over stock (250-auto/260 stick) would be 290-300 rwhp, plenty of people have claimed that, guess it depends on what threads you read. With my mods I ran a personal best 13.1 @ 104mph the other nightat Firebird, a perfect run so don't really see where I could have picked up another .2 or .3 to get me into the 12s, it takes a combination of mods to get in the 12s and a canned tune/intake on street tires is BS, therehave been plenty ofother S197s at the two tracks I frequentand I have never seen one run close to even 12.9 without a decent amount of modifications, namely drag radials, gears, LCAs, etc.....
hell most of the guys out here with blowers/NOS are only in the mid 12s, like I have said before I apparentlyAZGTs are slower !!!! lol
Guess you need to get east of the Mason-Dixon line to run faster !!!!?? lol
I will shut up when someone local with just a couple of mods on street tires makes a 12.9 run, period !!!
30 to 40 over stock (250-auto/260 stick) would be 290-300 rwhp, plenty of people have claimed that, guess it depends on what threads you read. With my mods I ran a personal best 13.1 @ 104mph the other nightat Firebird, a perfect run so don't really see where I could have picked up another .2 or .3 to get me into the 12s, it takes a combination of mods to get in the 12s and a canned tune/intake on street tires is BS, therehave been plenty ofother S197s at the two tracks I frequentand I have never seen one run close to even 12.9 without a decent amount of modifications, namely drag radials, gears, LCAs, etc.....
hell most of the guys out here with blowers/NOS are only in the mid 12s, like I have said before I apparentlyAZGTs are slower !!!! lol
Guess you need to get east of the Mason-Dixon line to run faster !!!!?? lol
I will shut up when someone local with just a couple of mods on street tires makes a 12.9 run, period !!!
CAI/Tune Stock Pirellis.
60's 1.89-2.01
Traps 106-107
DA's -71' to -658'
I also have a 13.08 from +944'.
I have two 12.9's from +674' with the addition of an aluminum driveshaft.
I dont know how to convince you. If you chose to believe the possible is impossible that is certainly your right.
PS Your trap speed seems low for an automatic with your mods. What was the Density Altitude for your 104.2 run?
1200 FT ABOVE SEA LEVEL , according to abc15 density altitude calculator(dew point, pressure, temp)= 2171.8 ?
We are in a valley here I wouldn't think the alt/weather would have that much to do with it unless it is really hot, like summertime you know 110s !!
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Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,635
From: state of confusion
RE: stock gt rwhp?
ORIGINAL: desslok40
1200 FT ABOVE SEA LEVEL , according to abc15 density altitude calculator(dew point, pressure, temp)= 2171.8 ?
We are in a valley here I wouldn't think the alt/weather would have that much to do with it unless it is really hot, like summertime you know 110s !!
ORIGINAL: Gene K
PS Your trap speed seems low for an automatic with your mods. What was the Density Altitude for your 104.2 run?
PS Your trap speed seems low for an automatic with your mods. What was the Density Altitude for your 104.2 run?
We are in a valley here I wouldn't think the alt/weather would have that much to do with it unless it is really hot, like summertime you know 110s !!
I just happen to be working on an analysis forwind loads and had some air density tables handy.
Norm
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Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,635
From: state of confusion
RE: stock gt rwhp?
Yeah, you're probably right. I'd claim that I've been an engineer for too long except that I've been running numbers for some of these car-related topics for longer than that. Phrases like "seems a little low" are a bit like waving a red cape out in the middle of some pasture in Spain. 
Norm
Norm