Team Performance Twin Turbo GT runs 10.88/128
04-15-2008, 01:36 PM
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Team Performance Twin Turbo GT runs 10.88/128
So.....we decided after Orlando to replace the stock torque converter with a new Precision Industries 3500 triple disc unit to get closer to turbo spool on the starting line. While I'm still about 500 rpm shy of where we need to be......it helped! Managed to run this in Bakersfield last weekend during the West Coast Hot Rod Association race.
60' = 1.760
330' = 4.635
660' = 7.034 @ 102.01
1000' = 9.122
1320' = 10.887 @ 127.89
I can not thank the guys at Team Performance Products/Exile Turbo Systems enough for the power they have given me with this car. We need to have the converter loosened another 500 rpm or so and get the tune finalized but this thing is an animal. The previous best runs this weekend (11.11 and 11.09) were all performed with me deep staging the car. While this is great for reaction times it damn sure kills elapsed time. When I asked for one more run I tried really hard to shallow stage the car but it did creep about three inches or so on me. Still.....a ten second car with nothing but a twin turbo kit and a small converter. The mph shows what the car is capable of running.
We are going to get another converter this week and have this one reworked as a backup unit. Then....a new tune along with the required pieces for sub-10 second runs and we're in business. Everyone involved with this car feels that 10.60's are not out of the question at the FFW Houston race. If it keeps the rods inside the block, that is.
Here are some things to think about......
Why Team Performance/Exile Turbo Systems?
While this kit might be higher priced that other kits on the market the engineering, installation, and equipment is second to none. Designed by Rick Head of Exile Turbo Systems to be the most powerful kit available today. The turbos in this kit are Garrett GT2871-R twin ball bearing units that can support up to 900 hp if you've got the engine and fuel system. No changing turbos down the road if you want to turn the boost up. The system is covered by a carbon fiber belly pan that attaches to the frame rails with Dzus fasteners. This keeps road debris and water out of the turbo inlet air filters. Plus.....it hides the turbos. Stealth.....nice on the streets.
Installation Nightmare?
Not with this kit. The installation is completely bolt on. No cutting, fabrication, welding, or hacking of the frame/engine bay is necesary. Even the stock exhaust system bolts directly to the kit. If you have a good floor jack, four jack stands, and an average set of hand tools you can install this kit at home in one weekend. I've done it. There will also be a complete installation article coming up in one of the major Mustang magazines so you can see for yourself just how easily the kit installs.
Tuning
The as-delivered tune is 90% spot on. Tune can be provided with either an SCT or Diablosport tuner. We have the SCT software controlling my car. I have some additional tuning to do for racing but the street setup is good. Mine is even milder than the delivered tunes since it was done as a test car. I've got 10 degrees total timing at wide open throttle and look how it runs.
Driving the car
Daily driving is similar to stock unless you press the pedal down. Currently getting 20 mpg in town and 25 on the highway. You honestly do not know the turbos are there unless you accelerate past 2500 rpm. Once they spool though you better know what you're doing behind the wheel. I can break the tires loose at 65 mph with no problems. Done it.
Additional Modifications
While there were none necessary for the turbo kit installation we did add a Precision Industries 3500 rpm converter for racing in FFW, NMRA, and WCHRA. I need an additional 500 rpm or so but that will come easily enough. We also added an 8 pt roll bar for NHRA/IHRA reasons. We knew the car would run quicker than 11.50 but had no idea the 10's were going to be so easy. I still have the stock cat back and mufflers on the car. For driving the car on the street and random jaunts down the racetrack......nothing else is needed with this kit. Except really big *****.
I promise to have pictures shortly. I did take quite a few this weekend but my camera ended up in the car when it went back to the Team Performance shop on Sunday evening. Damnit.
60' = 1.760
330' = 4.635
660' = 7.034 @ 102.01
1000' = 9.122
1320' = 10.887 @ 127.89
I can not thank the guys at Team Performance Products/Exile Turbo Systems enough for the power they have given me with this car. We need to have the converter loosened another 500 rpm or so and get the tune finalized but this thing is an animal. The previous best runs this weekend (11.11 and 11.09) were all performed with me deep staging the car. While this is great for reaction times it damn sure kills elapsed time. When I asked for one more run I tried really hard to shallow stage the car but it did creep about three inches or so on me. Still.....a ten second car with nothing but a twin turbo kit and a small converter. The mph shows what the car is capable of running.
We are going to get another converter this week and have this one reworked as a backup unit. Then....a new tune along with the required pieces for sub-10 second runs and we're in business. Everyone involved with this car feels that 10.60's are not out of the question at the FFW Houston race. If it keeps the rods inside the block, that is.
Here are some things to think about......
Why Team Performance/Exile Turbo Systems?
While this kit might be higher priced that other kits on the market the engineering, installation, and equipment is second to none. Designed by Rick Head of Exile Turbo Systems to be the most powerful kit available today. The turbos in this kit are Garrett GT2871-R twin ball bearing units that can support up to 900 hp if you've got the engine and fuel system. No changing turbos down the road if you want to turn the boost up. The system is covered by a carbon fiber belly pan that attaches to the frame rails with Dzus fasteners. This keeps road debris and water out of the turbo inlet air filters. Plus.....it hides the turbos. Stealth.....nice on the streets.
Installation Nightmare?
Not with this kit. The installation is completely bolt on. No cutting, fabrication, welding, or hacking of the frame/engine bay is necesary. Even the stock exhaust system bolts directly to the kit. If you have a good floor jack, four jack stands, and an average set of hand tools you can install this kit at home in one weekend. I've done it. There will also be a complete installation article coming up in one of the major Mustang magazines so you can see for yourself just how easily the kit installs.
Tuning
The as-delivered tune is 90% spot on. Tune can be provided with either an SCT or Diablosport tuner. We have the SCT software controlling my car. I have some additional tuning to do for racing but the street setup is good. Mine is even milder than the delivered tunes since it was done as a test car. I've got 10 degrees total timing at wide open throttle and look how it runs.
Driving the car
Daily driving is similar to stock unless you press the pedal down. Currently getting 20 mpg in town and 25 on the highway. You honestly do not know the turbos are there unless you accelerate past 2500 rpm. Once they spool though you better know what you're doing behind the wheel. I can break the tires loose at 65 mph with no problems. Done it.
Additional Modifications
While there were none necessary for the turbo kit installation we did add a Precision Industries 3500 rpm converter for racing in FFW, NMRA, and WCHRA. I need an additional 500 rpm or so but that will come easily enough. We also added an 8 pt roll bar for NHRA/IHRA reasons. We knew the car would run quicker than 11.50 but had no idea the 10's were going to be so easy. I still have the stock cat back and mufflers on the car. For driving the car on the street and random jaunts down the racetrack......nothing else is needed with this kit. Except really big *****.
I promise to have pictures shortly. I did take quite a few this weekend but my camera ended up in the car when it went back to the Team Performance shop on Sunday evening. Damnit.
04-15-2008, 01:47 PM
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RE: Team Performance Twin Turbo GT runs 10.88/128
why do I have to read things like this....I'm seriously about 2 weeks away from buying a whipple, now i read this. hmmm, I guess I got 2 weeks to figure it out. oh yeah, insane times man!
04-15-2008, 03:07 PM
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RE: Team Performance Twin Turbo GT runs 10.88/128
Thanks for the info. It is a sick kit. It is one of the nicest I have seen in a long time and certainly the nicest I've seen for the S197. Too bad good turbo kits weren't available a couple years ago or, who knows, maybe I'd still have a turbo on my car...[8D]
Again congrats on seriously impressive stock longblock times!@!
Again congrats on seriously impressive stock longblock times!@!
04-15-2008, 04:49 PM
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RE: Team Performance Twin Turbo GT runs 10.88/128
Is this the first car to hit 10's on the stock block? Do you have any video of the run?
I hope you aren't counting on the rods holding. I hear so much about how it's all in the tune, but 10's, somethings going to break.
I hope you aren't counting on the rods holding. I hear so much about how it's all in the tune, but 10's, somethings going to break.
04-15-2008, 07:08 PM
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RE: Team Performance Twin Turbo GT runs 10.88/128
JDM has 2 that I know of on the stock longblock that have seen a 10 second pass. I don't know about '6'. Not saying they don't - just that I'm not aware of them.
I know about 10-12 who have seen a 10 time slip on the stock motor on various FI kits and that's in the whole country. Not as easy as many think and certainly more to it than making a big dyno number...
I know about 10-12 who have seen a 10 time slip on the stock motor on various FI kits and that's in the whole country. Not as easy as many think and certainly more to it than making a big dyno number...
04-15-2008, 07:45 PM
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RE: Team Performance Twin Turbo GT runs 10.88/128
I would be extremely nervous on the 3-4 shift with that much power on the stock block. blowing the motor is one thing, but blowing oil all over the track shifting at 100+mph is something entirely different.
I would just get a forged block. No need to prove it can be done, it's been done. It's cheaper to replace the block than the whole car.
I would just get a forged block. No need to prove it can be done, it's been done. It's cheaper to replace the block than the whole car.
