I'm thinking about getting a Pypes O/R X-pipe.
04-23-2008, 11:01 PM
#11
4th Gear Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,496
RE: I'm thinking about getting a Pypes O/R X-pipe.
ORIGINAL: acascianelli
This doesn't make me feel so confident about it anymore. Thank you for your comments though, I do value your opinion.
ORIGINAL: VistaGT
...
3. It's still loud as hell with the factory mufflers so getting pulled over is the cops choice. As I said still very loud, sorta obnoxious on cold starts IMO and I like loud exhaust.
...
LASTLY and this is my opinion. It doesnt sound as muscular as I would like with the stock mufflers. I had it with the flows and the rasp sounded terrible at some rpms but others it sounded amazing especially at WOT! Also it was always deep. When you're in the car w/ stockers it sounds very ricey and the only way I can decribe the diff btwn them and flows is when I took the flows off it sounded like it got nuetered. It was just a very high pitch exhaust note........On the contrary from the outside at WOT it does sound really good and there is no drone.
...
3. It's still loud as hell with the factory mufflers so getting pulled over is the cops choice. As I said still very loud, sorta obnoxious on cold starts IMO and I like loud exhaust.
...
LASTLY and this is my opinion. It doesnt sound as muscular as I would like with the stock mufflers. I had it with the flows and the rasp sounded terrible at some rpms but others it sounded amazing especially at WOT! Also it was always deep. When you're in the car w/ stockers it sounds very ricey and the only way I can decribe the diff btwn them and flows is when I took the flows off it sounded like it got nuetered. It was just a very high pitch exhaust note........On the contrary from the outside at WOT it does sound really good and there is no drone.
04-24-2008, 08:27 AM
#12
RE: I'm thinking about getting a Pypes O/R X-pipe.
Like I said before, I would be running with the stock mufflers. I found a youtube clip of an offroad H with the stock mufflers and I didn't think it sounded bad at all. To me it just sounded like a louder, slightly more raspier stock exhaust.
04-24-2008, 09:23 AM
#13
RE: I'm thinking about getting a Pypes O/R X-pipe.
One other question I have is regarding the tune. I have a Diablosport Predator so I can turn the O2 sensors off myself, but should I contact Bamachips and have him write me a new tune with the o/r pipe in mind?
04-24-2008, 10:08 AM
#14
4th Gear Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,496
RE: I'm thinking about getting a Pypes O/R X-pipe.
Yea the H and stock mufflers would work. I've never heard it but it should just be a raspier much louder version of stock. The X is what made the stock sound ehhhh. As far as your tune im 99.9% sure that you cannot do it yourself and you have to call bama and they will shut them off. For all you know they could ALREADY be off-that was the case with my brenspeed tune. Good luck!
04-24-2008, 11:53 AM
#15
RE: I'm thinking about getting a Pypes O/R X-pipe.
I know I can turn on and off the o2 sensors on my tuner. What I was trying to get at was whether or not Doug would be able to further enhance the tune knowing that I'll be running no cats, or if it doesn't require any additional tuning other than turning off the o2 sensors.
04-24-2008, 02:20 PM
#16
2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Caracas, Venezuela
Posts: 401
RE: I'm thinking about getting a Pypes O/R X-pipe.
Yes, you can turn them off with the predator but not in the sct (on the flash device itself, it obviously can be done in the tune), if I'm not wrong deleting the cats can make the car a little bit leaner WOT, so there is something that can be done in the tune and is actually more desirable but adding a small amount yourself with the device can work too.
I did test myself what happened with the AFR of the car in the dyno by just playing around with the spark and fuel options of the device, and specially the fuel options even making noticeable changes they were very subtle in the AFR, so playing around with 2-4% more fuel can make you get a couple of horses back without getting the AFR in risky areas, now, a global spark adder like the option Predator has is a totally different animal.
If you can get a tune or even a dyno run, even better. Better to be safe than sorry.
I did test myself what happened with the AFR of the car in the dyno by just playing around with the spark and fuel options of the device, and specially the fuel options even making noticeable changes they were very subtle in the AFR, so playing around with 2-4% more fuel can make you get a couple of horses back without getting the AFR in risky areas, now, a global spark adder like the option Predator has is a totally different animal.
If you can get a tune or even a dyno run, even better. Better to be safe than sorry.
04-24-2008, 02:21 PM
#17
4th Gear Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,496
RE: I'm thinking about getting a Pypes O/R X-pipe.
Well no cats will lean out the AFR. Depending how lean you're tune is currently running Doug might want to make it run a little richer. Brenspeed said my tune didnt need any adjustment beside turning off the o2's but the best thing would be is to ask Doug, he knows best about his tune
04-24-2008, 06:49 PM
#19
5th Gear Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Dfw/Austin, TX
Posts: 3,465
RE: I'm thinking about getting a Pypes O/R X-pipe.
ORIGINAL: VistaGT
1. About 10hp at the wheels
2.The install is pretty easy if you're mechanically inclined. It took me a couple of hours the first mid-pipe swap I ever did. I've done it prob 10 times since and now it's very easy and wouldnt take much time at all. One annoying thing is getting to the o2 sensor behind the factory cat. If I had more tools it prob would have been easier but that gave me trouble. Btw mine was done on ramps.
3. It's still loud as hell with the factory mufflers so getting pulled over is the cops choice. As I said still very loud, sorta obnoxious on cold starts IMO and I like loud exhaust.
4. I had the Bassani X and even though the one I got was so F***ed up I had to return it, I still think Bassani makes a great product. The reason I ike their X is because the crossover is a clamshell design and isnt just two pipes welded together. It's more a "prochamberish" crossover.
LASTLY and this is my opinion. It doesnt sound as muscular as I would like with the stock mufflers. I had it with the flows and the rasp sounded terrible at some rpms but others it sounded amazing especially at WOT! Also it was always deep. When you're in the car w/ stockers it sounds very ricey and the only way I can decribe the diff btwn them and flows is when I took the flows off it sounded like it got nuetered. It was just a very high pitch exhaust note........On the contrary from the outside at WOT it does sound really good and there is no drone.
1. About 10hp at the wheels
2.The install is pretty easy if you're mechanically inclined. It took me a couple of hours the first mid-pipe swap I ever did. I've done it prob 10 times since and now it's very easy and wouldnt take much time at all. One annoying thing is getting to the o2 sensor behind the factory cat. If I had more tools it prob would have been easier but that gave me trouble. Btw mine was done on ramps.
3. It's still loud as hell with the factory mufflers so getting pulled over is the cops choice. As I said still very loud, sorta obnoxious on cold starts IMO and I like loud exhaust.
4. I had the Bassani X and even though the one I got was so F***ed up I had to return it, I still think Bassani makes a great product. The reason I ike their X is because the crossover is a clamshell design and isnt just two pipes welded together. It's more a "prochamberish" crossover.
LASTLY and this is my opinion. It doesnt sound as muscular as I would like with the stock mufflers. I had it with the flows and the rasp sounded terrible at some rpms but others it sounded amazing especially at WOT! Also it was always deep. When you're in the car w/ stockers it sounds very ricey and the only way I can decribe the diff btwn them and flows is when I took the flows off it sounded like it got nuetered. It was just a very high pitch exhaust note........On the contrary from the outside at WOT it does sound really good and there is no drone.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RkrvY_OZhLA
04-24-2008, 07:39 PM
#20
2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location:
Posts: 352
RE: I'm thinking about getting a Pypes O/R X-pipe.
thats an o/r h not an o/r x try this video http://youtube.com/watch?v=2CMZRMXqjtw